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Jerrbear65
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I don't believe Deomons, Ghosts, or Angels are real. There is no proof what so ever if any one can find me proof or a link to the evidence that they are real plz show me.

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MRWalker82
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Did you ever consider that your subconsciousness knew that you were in the same bed and in your sleep state created a dream about that? It's actually quite common for those who awake into sleep paralysis to experience many audio-visual hallucinations.

Freakenstein
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Well..the problem is, the only time I knew about it was when I was 8 months old, and that wasn't necessarily a time for knowing. It was more along eating, sleeping, and pooping lol

And the point of sleep paralysis is where you are wide awake and have control of all your senses, except you cannot move and speak. That and I suppose a high degree of insecurity and fear. If I was as much a believer as anyone, I would have many more experiences, but this was my one and only time.

cenation
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how can you be a christian and not believe in angels, demons, and ghosts. the proof is in the bible.

MRWalker82
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Well..the problem is, the only time I knew about it was when I was 8 months old, and that wasn't necessarily a time for knowing. It was more along eating, sleeping, and pooping lol


Still, the concept and the memory of that place were imprinted on your brain. Whether you could recall it as a conscious memory or not does not mean that a memory was not made. The point that I make is this is just one of many examples of 'supernatural experiences' which, when viewed from a skeptical and scientific point of view, often has a very 'natural' explanation.
MageGrayWolf
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Freakenstein I can one up you on dead grandmother experiences.

Way back when I was little I walked into our guest bedroom. Inside sitting in a wooden rocking chair was this old lady. I just stood there and stared at her for a moment and she just looked up at me and smiled. I was still a bit scared since she was someone I didn't know in my house.
After she looked at me and smiled I left the room and immediately went to my mom to ask her who the lady was. My mom was confused because there was no lady staying with us, and we didn't have a wooden rocking chair in that room.
We went back into the guest room and no one was there and the chair was gone. I then described what the lady looked like. My mom looking puzzled for a moment went to her dresser and pulled out a photo and asked me if this was who I saw, I said yes.
It turns out it was my grandmother who died 3 months before I was born. That was the first time I had ever seen a photo of her as well.

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There's accounts of angels in the Bible. But apart from the Bible, there are a few throughout history



Hey, there's other holy stuff that says about the existence of Angels. Though I rarely see any evidence of existence of demons. For ghost, well... There's a lot of psychic people who they think they could see/talk to/hear/feel ghosts and there's also a lot of paranormal investigators out there. My fave is the ghost lab LOL.

OK, so, off with the evidence and onto my personal belief. I personally belief that satans, ghost and angels are real but no demons since I think demons are higher ranks of satans.

For my little ghost experience, I have had encounter one when I was little. It was under a couch on my grandparents' home. I only saw the hand, not the body. Since I was just a little boy I was scared though nowadays I'm braver and more reckless. I would've do almost everything that people thought is scary. Anyways, the hand looked so dried out and kinda have some cracks on the hand like as if it was made out of ashes. It still creeps me until today.
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how can you be a christian and not believe in angels, demons, and ghosts. the proof is in the bible.


You mean those written words on a piece on pieces of paper in a book, that anybody can scribble down and not provide actual proof of their existence, just assume everyone will believe it because of the name of the book, you mean that bible?
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It is also historically accurate.

Wow.. I didn't know that people living several hundrets of years and a dragon chasing the sun in the desert were actually real and historically documented 0.o
BlackVortex
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'That book' was written over a couple thousand years, written by many different authors. It is also historically accurate. Is that the Bible you were talking about?


No. different bible mate.
This bible features old guys living on clouds creating men without belly buttons and magical trees of mystery with talking snakes in them
Not so historically accurate in my opinion..
BlackVortex
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Also, this bible written 'thousands of years ago'
Could you please point me to where I would find some original text written by these authors?
Not copies of copies of copies from copies.

MageGrayWolf
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There's a lot of psychic people who they think they could see/talk to/hear/feel ghosts


If you really are psychic I would recommend stepping up to James Randi's challenges of conclusively proving it. There is $1,000,000 in it for anyone who can.
So far non have claimed the prize.

and there's also a lot of paranormal investigators out there. My fave is the ghost lab LOL.


A really good paranormal investigator doesn't step in with preconceived notions of what they will find, though many do. But the fact we have groups of people investigating seemingly strange and unexplained events doesn't add to the validity of ghost and the like existing.

OK, so, off with the evidence and onto my personal belief. I personally belief that satans, ghost and angels are real but no demons since I think demons are higher ranks of satans.


Kind of been over this one already, Satan was a demon.
MRWalker82
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Kind of been over this one already, Satan was a demon.


Depends on if you referring to the Christian Satan, who is Lucifer, the angel of light and beauty who formerly resided at the right hand of God and grew jealous when he was replaced by Jesus, or the Jewish 'ha-satan' from which the Christian name is derived.
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or the Jewish 'ha-satan' from which the Christian name is derived

That's interesting. Poor devil, his name comes from Jewish, his horns from the celtic antlered one, Cernunnos, and the name of his reign from the nordic underworld Helheim... if he existed he may have some big complexes :P
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That's interesting. Poor devil, his name comes from Jewish, his horns from the celtic antlered one, Cernunnos, and the name of his reign from the nordic underworld Helheim... if he existed he may have some big complexes :P


Sounds like one very mixed up individual. :P
Aaliyah928
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Satan is the commander of the demons, only one of him. Demons however have a few forms, Succubus, Incubus, Soldier, Possessing, Hellhounds,
Anyway, back on subject. Some of the things that the ghosthunters find are pretty solid enough proof for me, like heat vision showing people that aren't visible to the human eye, and aren't just through walls (smart alec denied)

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