I don't believe Deomons, Ghosts, or Angels are real. There is no proof what so ever if any one can find me proof or a link to the evidence that they are real plz show me.
Well, if there where ghosts, then there could be demons, if there are ghosts and demons, then there is probably a God, and if there is a God, then there is probably magic. I don't see a bunch of people casting magical spells. Unless of coarse I'm standing in the middle of a harry potter convention. People need to stop worrying about what is going to happen when you die. Think about it like this. You die, that's it. As horrible and scary as it sounds, there's nothing afterward. Now with that in mind. How are you living your life?
Err... So you make an assertion than one idea leads to another, and another, and another, and another. And then you link it to people worrying about death, which there was no mention of. With the idea of people worrying about death, you attempt to overthrow peoples opinions which are based on faith. I fail to see how any of this is valid and relevant... [/rant] well whatever tickles your fancy, I can't stop you. Any more posts like these coming from you, I'll probably ignore them from now on.
No. I was merely expressing my personal psychoanalytic theory between the common ideal that when you die, (because when you die, that is usually about the time the ghost thing happens) you become a ghost, hanging around in purgatory, or you get to go some place greater, E.G., heaven. These things usually in a biblical sense, are tied together. Ghosts, Demons, Angels, ect. There was no attempt however in trying to over throw any persons faith. Just simply making a suggestion, to try thinking more outside the proverbial box.
Well there can be many theories for a ghosts existence, which does not neccessitate a its existence in biblical terms. As of yet, I have yet to see anyone claim the existence of a ghost in biblical terms. We just don't know. But I guess it would be reasonable to connect death with an afterlife, but where you got the idea of fear of death from the lack of such comments in this thread is beyond me. Maybe some people fear oblivion so they would rather believe that there is an afterlife, but personally I don't see oblivion as something to fear. The idea of hell makes oblivion a better choice, and I would also rather be condemned to oblivion at the end of my life than to spend an eternity in heaven depriving my existence of meaning. Among those who believe in the existence of ghosts, there are many theories that does not neccessitate for a ghost to either go to heaven or hell; one of the theories is that a ghost is simply a remnant of a dieing person's strong emotional ties with the world.
I don't really believe in demons or angels (but that also depends on your religion if you believe in them), but i do believe in ghosts.. that's because so many strange things happen and i don't believe that when you die there is nothing, i think there are things like ghosts.. Also because a friend of mine, her grandmother died and some time after she died there suddenly was a paper with some ash on the table, where the name of her mother was.. also i do believe in it because i experienced a bit myself... but i don't want to talk about that:P
i side with the general population that believes faith in a greater power is required to accept angels and demons.
I can agree to believe in such things you need to believe without proof, but how is that a good and useful method of determining reality?
I have an absolute opinion on ghosts however, im an old guy,retired...in the late '80's we moved our family from house in iowa,beautiful old farmhouse, and definatly haunted. I was a skeptic until then. I wont bore you with stories, but after 10 yrs in the army, and traveling all over the world,i had seen alot of strange things, nothing prepared me for the real deal. Believe what you will. I know the truth.
I'm sure your experiences were quite interesting, perhaps rather scary, but how do you know it was a ghost and not one of the myriad of other possibilities both of physical and psychological origins? The problem with absolutes when dealing with knowledge is that it can leave you closed minded to other possibilities.
Among those who believe in the existence of ghosts, there are many theories that does not neccessitate for a ghost to either go to heaven or hell; one of the theories is that a ghost is simply a remnant of a dieing person's strong emotional ties with the world.
The only evidence I have run into that would suggest the remnant of a person still going about after death had to deal with electromagnetic fields. We have tested this with leaves and amputees. When we cut a leaf in half and placed it under a device to visually see the electromagnetic field we would see the whole leaf still there. This effect would last for hours after the leaf had been cut. A similar effect could be seen in amputees even years after losing the limb we were able to see a vague field of the missing limb. Some have speculated that if this can happen with missing limbs that it can also happen with the whole body, and even mimic the brain enough to retain a resemblance of the person consciousness. However there is no proof that this effect exists without the physical body to produce it, making the leap that it also will recreate the persons consciousness even less reasonable to assume.
Yea, your right mage,insomuch that defineing something gives the appearence of an absolute belief. I retract the 'ghost' and instead refer to everything that happened as a haunt. I was pretty closed minded until that house. So i disagree with you there. I can accept that there are things in this plane that just cant be explained. Added bonus, i ask our preist if there are any mentions of ghosts in the bible. His reply was off the cuff, he cant remember where, but its a single passage and as he remembers,your not supposed to fool with such things. i believe his words were that scripture would have you ignore them.... He did quote that in the end all things will be known.If anyone knows of this passage enlighten me plz.
there is a theory out there that fluxuating magnetic fields can cause the brain to temporarily become confuzzled and afterwards for this time the brain fills in that space with something that never happened, like a ghost or zombiez or aliens, because it was too confused to know what was happening in this time.
Not that I particularly care what the Bible says but I remember something about Saul consulting with the ghost of Samuel and that was one of the reasons Saul was killed. I think there was something about not consulting with people who talk to ghosts too because they're cut off from God or something.
or perhaps they're more in tune with the world than 'god' and are therefore punished for it....i think some people are just simply born ,whether nurture or nature, more in touch with the less noticeable things of the world.
So you went from saying there were absolutely no chance of ghosts to saying there absolutely are? Sounds like you just went from one extreme to the other.
I can accept that there are things in this plane that just cant be explained.
He did quote that in the end all things will be known.
Aren't these two points in contradiction to each other?
there is a theory out there that fluxuating magnetic fields can cause the brain to temporarily become confuzzled and afterwards for this time the brain fills in that space with something that never happened, like a ghost or zombiez or aliens, because it was too confused to know what was happening in this time.
I would like to know more about this myself. I know electromagnetic fields can cause all sorts of strange things to happen both to the human brain and physically environment but I haven't heard of this before.
god is real but demons or angels are not real (i have bad english)
I'm guessing your not a christian then? Because if you were, that would mean you don't believe a lot of the christian bible despite believing in the bible. Maybe you are a budhhist or something unique
Yes, and Ireland is a small island in the shape of a clover with dancing and singing leprechauns, they live at the end of rainbows and if you follow one you find a pot of gold
Yes, and Ireland is a small island in the shape of a clover with dancing and singing leprechauns, they live at the end of rainbows and if you follow one you find a pot of gold
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woohoo! I am sooooooo there! Kbye! (Don't be an ass dude)
I believe that Demons Angels and Ghosts are very much real. But mostly Demons and Angels...not 100% sure about Ghosts...(Like 94% sure)
I'm referring to 'God's' existence, or former existence.
To the topic: Demons and Angels, no.
Until someone shows me solid proof of those 2's existence I won't ever believe in them.
Ghosts, possibly, if there's any explanation to it, I would think, it will be along the lines of:
there is a theory out there that fluxuating magnetic fields can cause the brain to temporarily become confuzzled and afterwards for this time the brain fills in that space with something that never happened, like a ghost or zombiez or aliens, because it was too confused to know what was happening in this time.
This post.
Since we also dream things while we sleep, something could cause our brain to half re-create this as we are awake, and confuse it with reality, don't think there's scientific proof on that, just my opinion
