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whyismynametom
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I get mad when i see Spanish subtitles on boxes or a Spanish news channel, i wonder how far is to far. I do not hate immigrants but i demand them to learn English if they come here. here are my reasons.
#1. If Spanish is on a cereal box why isn't everyone language known to man, not every one speaks English or Spanish in America.
#2. A country needs a dominant language to be successful and and to unite everyone in a way.
#3. Language should be like currency, you should have one main one, not a bunch.

i do not think people should only know English, i encourage learning other languages, but putting multiple languages on all items can lead to problems, and possible decrease communication in the USA.

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IISn1p3dII
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#1. If Spanish is on a cereal box why isn't everyone language known to man, not every one speaks English or Spanish in America.


Because it's a very popular language, it's in the top languages spoken in the world, obviously. And also because of the high Mexican population in America. It's obviously reached a point where the Spanish language has become so prevalent in our country that it has been noticed and accepted and it was thought it should be included more in our culture.


#2. A country needs a dominant language to be successful and and to unite everyone in a way.


We have one - English.


#3. Language should be like currency, you should have one main one, not a bunch.


Again, we have one - English.
Armpit
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They should have to take mandatory classes.


No. That would lead to less immigration and eventually, a decline in population.

Like I've said before, language should be enforced, not forced. We want people to want to learn our language. We don't want people to be forced to, because that would deny them the right of freedom of speech, which I know is an important law in America.
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Mandatory classes? And where are we going to find funding and resources for said classes? I'm not opposed to the idea of immigrants having to know some English, but mandatory classes is a terribly impractical idea. At any rate, many immigrants have taken some sort of English class or test (the TOEFL, for instance) that helps demonstrate some proficiency.

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Unless you're a virulent racist (which is like 50% of America, 75% of Southerners), then you shouldn't have a problem with foreigers. I guess foreigners should be familiar with the English language, but that doesn't mean we should force them to learn it.

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Je suis canadien. Mon langue maternelle est anglais. Cependant, je parle courament en francais. Si vous n'aimez pas autres langues, c'est votre problème.

Translation: I am Canadian. My first language is English. However, I speak fluently in French. If you do not like other laguages, that is your problem.

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Mandatory classes? And where are we going to find funding and resources for said classes? I'm not opposed to the idea of immigrants having to know some English, but mandatory classes is a terribly impractical idea. At any rate, many immigrants have taken some sort of English class or test (the TOEFL, for instance) that helps demonstrate some proficiency.


There are quite a few resources for learning English, or whatever language is dominant where you want to live, assuming they have a half decent supply of immigrants. Whenever there are immigrants, these types of industries grow. It would help the economy more than anything.

The government would pay for it, be it local, state, or federal. There are already state funded programs like that, and always have been.

No. That would lead to less immigration and eventually, a decline in population.


That would be a good thing in some places. Unless you want to have to know twenty languages to have to be able to get through the average day.
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Unless you want to have to know twenty languages to have to be able to get through the average day.


dude! Do how often do you ever need to talk in a non-English language? Most people I come in contact with speak English. Plus, will it kill you to stimulate your brain cells?
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If you move to a country you should speak that countries language. You can speak whatever else you want, as long as you speak whatever language the country speaks.

whyismynametom
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I think the quality of immigrants has gone down, now they have become more lazy in my opinion, i have nothing against immigration at all, in the older days when immigration was hot, the immigrants had to learn the language to survive, now the government will give the money to do nothing, even if they are illegal. This is directed towards the many "lazy" one's, i know there are a bunch of well educated immigrants that are multi-cultured, but not all are that way. I think learning English to become a citizen should be mandatory, because ----
You want to become a part of our nation, all we ask is you learn our culture, history, and (language). In my opinion that is how it should be, are we asking to much?
I s learning another language so bad that you'd rather illegally sneak in and then be stubborn or lazy and not learn, we offer many free outlets and opportunities to learn any language, why not just learn it?
Not all immigrants know Spanish, what if one is arrested that only speaks a very rare language, such as some African tribe member, do you have any idea how much trouble of paying and finding a translator would be, just because this person didn't feel like learning English?

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, i know there are a bunch of well educated immigrants that are multi-cultured, but not all are that way.


funny thing, those immigrants who you hate so much, are more cultural-accepting than you.

Do you really expect every hombre from Nicaragua to understand and know American culture?

in the older days when immigration was hot, the immigrants had to learn the language to survive


Back in the old days, Jews trying to flee the Holocaust couldn't enter the US because the immigration quotas were already filled.. You and your backwards polices deny people from fleeing terror, hunger and ultimately death.

You want to become a part of our nation, all we ask is you learn our culture, history, and (language). In my opinion that is how it should be, are we asking to much?
I s learning another language so bad that you'd rather illegally sneak in and then be stubborn or lazy and not learn, we offer many free outlets and opportunities to learn any language, why not just learn it?


I could say the same for you. Be more understanding of people hypocrite. We have the education and tools to, but you would rather be ignorant and racist towards people.
whyismynametom
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Back in the old days, Jews trying to flee the Holocaust couldn't enter the US because the immigration quotas were already filled.. You and your backwards polices deny people from fleeing terror, hunger and ultimately death.

this has nothing to do with now of days, i made a comparison, nothing to do with that particular case(witch i think was completely wrong)

I could say the same for you. Be more understanding of people hypocrite. We have the education and tools to, but you would rather be ignorant and racist towards people.

I'm not trying to become a citizen of another country, and how is that racist, i said not one word anywhere about a particular race, i made it specific i was not talking about a particular race
Stop saying i'm not acceptant of other cultures, i speak another language,(Spanish) and i guess that would make me a Non-hipocrat.
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this has nothing to do with now of days, i made a comparison, nothing to do with that particular case(witch i think was completely wrong)


Why? Did hunger, terror, religious prosecution, and genocide end in 1946? No. These problems exist today. As stated in The UN's Declaration of Human Rights, every human has a right to travel freely outside borders. Why can't people escape poverty and the pain of their native country?

i said not one word anywhere about a particular race, i made it specific i was not talking about a particular race


You were referring to all non-American English speakers. I think that counts.

Stop saying i'm not acceptant of other cultures, i speak another language,(Spanish) and i guess that would make me a Non-hipocrat.


If you speak Spanish, why are you against people speaking in Spanish? No comprendo senor.
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dude! Do how often do you ever need to talk in a non-English language? Most people I come in contact with speak English. Plus, will it kill you to stimulate your brain cells?


Seeing as I can speak anything other than a few words in Spanish, that will be never. So it doesn't stimulate my brain cells, it infuriates them knowing that they are talking behind my back.

And having to deal with people who can barely speak English is a major pain. And seeing as I do it everyday, it's an even worse pain.

Also note that if I went to, say Russia, I would expect the same out of myself. I would much rather be able to speak Russian than have everyone around me not be able to understand me, and thus get my own way. (which is a very common excuse)

"No comprende."
"Leave me alone."
"No comprende."

Even worse are the ones who can understand a language, but refuse to learn to speak it, or just don't feel like it.
whyismynametom
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You were referring to all non-American English speakers. I think that counts.

ok then what race is ALL NON-American's I wonder?
If you speak Spanish, why are you against people speaking in Spanish? No comprendo senor.

What don't you get, i'm against all Spanish speaking people THAT WANT TO BECOME AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BUT REFUSE TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE
Spanish is an example, not because there Spanish it is because they refuse to learn the modern native language and still want citizen ship

Also note that if I went to, say Russia, I would expect the same out of myself. I would much rather be able to speak Russian than have everyone around me not be able to understand me, and thus get my own way. (which is a very common excuse)

I totally agree
deserteagle
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"No comprende."


Russians speak Spanish saying "he/she doesn't understand" now? lol =p

Seeing as I can speak anything other than a few words in Spanish, that will be never. So it doesn't stimulate my brain cells, it infuriates them knowing that they are talking behind my back.


Maybe you should learn Spanish to talk to those people. Va a ensenar espanol por halblando a las persoras latina.

And having to deal with people who can barely speak English is a major pain. And seeing as I do it everyday, it's an even worse pain.


Learn the language. If you are dealing with this people everyday, it makes sense being able to have the ability to talk to them.
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