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DDX
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This is a discussion thread about Marijuana, Cannabis, Weed, Dank, 420, Pot. It is currently legal in a few states, though they are regulating the usage of it.

contrary to popular belief, weed doesnt cause cancer, it's like alcohol, impairs your motor skills. that's about it.

I figure you young kids will be eventually come into contact with it once you hit your college/high school years, and it would be good to dispel some wrong and wayward thinking brought on by the government.

so please have fun, ask questions, keep it lighthearted.

For others who partake in god's choice smokes please give me some of your favorite dank

Weed is legal in a couple of states, cali, colorado. up in Canada, Vancouver has legalized weed. Amsterdam too.

It's a great experience really, not advocating you should try it, since it is also quite the expensive plant (prices are artificially inflated in legalized areas also for government control purposes)

anyway
cheers

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sickcroon
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Right, because the NIDA, (a department of the National Institute of Health, and part of the Department of Health and Human services) a scientific organization for the study and promotion of all health issues, is so biased and against everything. If you look through their information the link to the studies which show the positive and negative effects of drugs on the human body, and show clearly what studies were performed.


Do you have idea who backed the funding for those particular studies? Doesn't matter what organization it is. False studies on research for countless products have been bought,payed for,twisted, and skewed for years. It's a strategy big corporations are very fond of.

I didn't see if anybody answered this next question in the same way as I'm going to, so I apologize if it's a repeat.

Is marijuana a gateway drug?

The only thing that makes marijuana a gateway drug is the fact that of all the drugs on the list of harmful illegal drugs, marijuana is widely known to cause the very least. Making it the most likely to experiment with. But the fact that it is still an illegal substance does one thing. The moment a person decides to do marijuana, that person decides to willfully break the law. Thus crossing a proverbial gateway into being a willful lawbreaker.
MRWalker82
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Is marijuana a gateway drug?


You really answered your own question.

The moment a person decides to do marijuana, that person decides to willfully break the law. Thus crossing a proverbial gateway into being a willful lawbreaker.


Personally I haven't seen anything which shows marijuana itself to be any form of 'gateway drug', however the criminalization of marijuana has created a stigma surrounding it's use which decreases the psychological and social aversions to other criminalized substances. Many people think "hey, marijuana isn't that bad but it's illegal, so some of these other illegal things probably aren't that bad either." This is what leads to experimentation, not marijuana itself. This is another reason why I fully support the legalization of marijuana, even for solely recreational use.
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I've never done the stuff and don't want to. I don't care about marijuana either way.

goumas13
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Marijuana is probably not a gateway drug. Some studies have found some evidence for some causal influences of cannabis in the development of other drug dependencies, however there is the possibility that these influences (to some extent) are attributed to external environmental sources.
One quite plausible explanation why cannabis users are presumably more likely to use other -harder- illicit drugs is that the black market acts as a gateway drug to more dangerous drugs, as opposed to the effects of cannabis per se.

Bottom line: the dealer is in all probability more the "gateway drug" to other harder substances than cannabis itself.

Lastly in my opinion drug policies may have less impact on cannabis use than is thought.

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Marijuana is probably not a gateway drug.


Guess who just when to a anti drug conference! Its defentelty a gateway drug, people starting useing it but start to want a better hit and scince with cannibis your first experience will be your best trip people experiment with other drugs to recreate that first hit.
goumas13
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Were did you learn to read?

I will repeat myself One quite plausible explanation why cannabis users are presumably more likely to use other -harder- illicit drugs is that the black market acts as a gateway drug to more dangerous drugs, as opposed to the effects of cannabis per se.

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Guess who just when to a anti drug conference! Its defentelty a gateway drug, people starting useing it but start to want a better hit and scince with cannibis your first experience will be your best trip people experiment with other drugs to recreate that first hit.


Yea, I'm gonna need to see some sources on this. You're first experience is NOT going to be your "best trip." Most do not even experience any euphoria or effects of marijuana their first use.
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Guess who just when to a anti drug conference! Its defentelty a gateway drug, people starting useing it but start to want a better hit and scince with cannibis your first experience will be your best trip people experiment with other drugs to recreate that first hit.


You have to understand that all drugs can be considered gateway drugs.

Nobody jumps straight to meth or cocaine. They generally start with alcohol, then they smoke weed, then they probably try some acid, then a few more drugs later they get to the hard stuff. People who are on hard drugs were either pushed by friends to try the harder stuff, or the minor drugs made them want to try harder stuff simply because they have an addictive personality caused by a number of non-drug related problems such as wanting to seek thrills by means of substance (starts with alcohol, generally), stress, peer pressure, or any number of things.

You also need to understand that most people who smoke marijuana don't try any harder drugs.

Many people who are posting here have smoked marijuana. I'm pretty sure most of us don't do any other illegal drugs, and none of us do any drugs that are more harmful than alcohol or cigarettes.

Let me explain the number one strawman people use against marijuana when they claim it is a gateway drug. You will hear people say something along the lines of "99 percent of cocaine users once smoked marijuana before trying cocaine." I'm pretty sure the same number also had a sip of alcohol. I'm also pretty sure most cocaine users have also drank milk at one point in their life.

Don't look at how many hard drug users have once smoked marijuana, but rather, look at how many of the marijuana smokers are hard drug users. The numbers are small.
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Guess who just when to a anti drug conference! Its defentelty a gateway drug, people starting useing it but start to want a better hit and scince with cannibis your first experience will be your best trip people experiment with other drugs to recreate that first hit.


What did you THINK you would be told ben?!?

"this is a conference against drugs... we have decided that drugs are not all that bad"
Asherlee
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Nobody jumps straight to meth or cocaine. They generally start with alcohol, then they smoke weed, then they probably try some acid, then a few more drugs later they get to the hard stuff.


Was it Mage that said: "That's like saying milk is a gateway to beer!"

lol

"this is a conference against drugs... we have decided that drugs are not all that bad"


MunKy you're on fire this week.
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Research from the University of New Hampshire shows that the "gateway effect" of marijuana is overblown.

I will quote a few lines:
Whether teenagers who smoked pot will use other illicit drugs as young adults has more to do with life factors such as employment status and stress, according to the new research. In fact, the strongest predictor of whether someone will use other illicit drugs is their race/ethnicity, not whether they ever used marijuana.

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In fact, the strongest predictor of whether someone will use other illicit drugs is their race/ethnicity, not whether they ever used marijuana.


Now I'm going to assume this is from living conditions and not because an Oriental person is more/less susceptible to do drugs than say a caucasion. Correct?
goumas13
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Now I'm going to assume this is from living conditions and not because an Oriental person is more/less susceptible to do drugs than say a caucasion. Correct?

Yep, I think you are correct.

According to this study Non-Hispanic whites show the greatest odds of other illicit substance use, followed by Hispanics, and then by African Americans.

NOTE: the survey data was from young adults who attended Miami-Dade public schools in the 1990s, thus the sample is not totally representative (they all attended to public Miami schools) and it is also relatively small (they asked 1,286 persons). So, please do me a favor and don't take for granted that "non-Hispanic whites show [...] then by African Americans".
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It makes me so happy when you guys know how to properly critique articles. I literally smile at it.

Both Sara and I have taught undergrads and we couldn't emphasize more the importance of proper article reviews.

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Actually, exposure and financial availability play major factors into drug use, although there seem to be some racial tendencies toward certain drugs. Even then, most racial tendencies toward drugs are more indicative of financial and social availability more than any predisposition toward drug seeking behavior.

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