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skater_kid_who_pwns
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So I just have a question to every one. What is the point in proving god to not exist? What makes it worth while to sit and flip out on people, the goverment, schools, kids, parents.....that they are wrong, and science is wrong?

I understand having an oppinion, and trying to get others to beilve that. But Have any of you heard of Pascals wager?

What he said was basically, if you belive in god, and he is real, you lived a good live, and if you belive in god, and he's not real, you lost nothing, but lived a life of good morals, which I will touch on in a second. However, If he is real, and you didn't beilve you go to hell. And if you didn't beilve and he isn't real, then you lost nothing, other then being remembered as a person who didn't care about morals.


I would like you to go read the ten commandments, and the other moral wrongs in the bible. How are ANY of them bad?

All I'm really trying to gather here, is what is the point in tryign to prove god as fake? Why does it matter if you beilve in god? And what do you lose by beilveing in him?

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Legion1350
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LOL! You made my day!


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grimml
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by Sam Harris:
Anyone who thinks that gay marriage is the greatest problem of the 21st century, or that women should be forced to live in burqas, is not worth listening to on the subject of morality.

Legion1350
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very well, why do you believe gay marriage is right?

Moe
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why do you believe gay marriage is right?


I know its right, because they are human and noone has the right to tell them they can't.
Legion1350
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Ah, but in this thread we are going on the basis of religion. 3 posts up, I gave scriptural evidence is wrong.

Legion1350
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3 posts up, I gave scriptural evidence *that homosexuality* is wrong


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grimml
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Ah, but in this thread we are going on the basis of religion. 3 posts up, I gave scriptural evidence is wrong.


EVIDENCE?? A book that's thousands of years old and written by humans is your evidence?? Pretty poor evidence...
Moe
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Ah, but in this thread we are going on the basis of religion.


I'm going on the basis that religion is wrong.

3 posts up, I gave scriptural evidence is wrong.


Scriptural evidence should not be used for laws.
Legion1350
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EVIDENCE?? A book that's thousands of years old and written by humans is your evidence?? Pretty poor evidence...


It is evidence. Inspired by god.

Very well Mr Walker. I will use the hard facts.
Job was written when Moses was still alive, before 1405 BC.
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
-Job 26:7
This says that the earth is suspended, and we all know today that the earth is held in a void called space.
Isaiah was written approximately in the 7th century B.C.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
-Isaiah 40:22
There, Isaiah talks of the circle of the earth. That says that the earth is round. Today, we all know the earth is indeed a sphere.
Now we're off to Jonah, which was written between approximately 793 and 758 B.C. A long time ago, people thought the bottom of the ocean was flat like a desert.
I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
-Jonah 2:6
Jonah speaks of the bottoms of the mountains, when he was drowned, soon to be swallowed by the fish. Today we know that the ocean is nothing but mountains and trenches.
Now we go to Psalms, which was written approx. 10th century B.C.
The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
-Psalms 8:8
What stands out is the paths of the seas. Now what does that mean? The paths of the seas are the ocean currents. We know today that many fish pass through the paths of the seas in the currents.
I will be glad to look up more proofs if you wish.
MRWalker82
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And what is that evidence of? Nothing. It is a collection of vague comments which you are choosing to interpret in such a manner as to make them look like they are showing something.

Legion1350
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But how are they vague comments? The Bible says the earth is suspended on nothing, it talks of the circle of the earth(meaning sphere), it talks of the mountains of the sea, and the ocean currents.

BlackVortex
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okay legion, i see how you follow the bible quotes to the letter.

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me

off you go

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The bible is a huge book. If you read though all of it there are bound to be some true points. That does not &quotrove" anything, it also says people can live to 500 and forbides women from teaching men.

Legion1350
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okay legion, i see how you follow the bible quotes to the letter.
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me
off you go

That verse means that we can't be rich if we expect to be in heaven. People may be unwilling to follow God if they have to leave their wealth behind.

The bible is a huge book. If you read though all of it there are bound to be some true points. That does not &quotrove" anything, it also says people can live to 500 and forbides women from teaching men.


True, but the Bible has yet to have 1 false truth. Also, Methuselah died at the age of 969, and by...
it also says people can live to 500 and forbides women from teaching men.

That means that women probably shouldn't, because they are very emotional. Women today are very emotional in the workplace.
BlackVortex
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That verse means that we can't be rich if we expect to be in heaven.


who said it meant that?
humans?
changing the word of god to suit themselves?
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