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Asherlee
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AZ Immigration Law

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a controversial bill Friday that makes it a crime for illegal immigrants to be in the state. The new law will require local police to seek proof of immigration status if there is reason to suspect individuals are illegal immigrants.

This means a situation in Arizona can go down like this:

Nice Mexican man born in Mexico, but is now a citizen. He is walking into a parking lot full of cars. He can't remember where he parked...
He looks around, checks a few aisles. In the mean time, a police officer is watching him.

This police officer, now, can approach this man simply by the color of his skin, demand to see proof of legally being in the country (visa, passport, social security card, etc).

Personally, this is a dark day in American history. They might as well slap a Star of David onto the Mexicans there.

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Kyouzou
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Oh this is ridiculous, shouldn't this be considered oh I don't know profiling?

Krizaz
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So know we know for a fact that Arizona is...

(Big Breath)
A Racist, Water/Blood Sucking, Shitty City, Crappy Teams, People Hating, Ghetto Area, piece of shit,

Kyouzou
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Exactly before it was speculated, now it's been signed into law by their governor.

Somers
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Well whatever it takes to get them out i guess?

kinda reminds me of the japanese in america during world war 2. except were not putting them in camps lol.

Graham
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Big whoop. Can't get anything done without someone being mad.

Oh wait, I haven't answered your question. :b

Asherlee
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I suppose, I meant to spark a conversation on the judgments of law enforcement with this new law.

Do you think your average, run-of-the-mill, cop is going to truly look for "evidential" signs of someone being an illegal immigrant? Do we even hold the ability to be that objective when it comes to inquiry of other humans as a COP?

Has anyone seen these Arizona policemen on the boarder? Let me show you.
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/52561649.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDEEF26F7BA80CF8996F2501983245E3B13942750C0FA7B143F06BF04B24B4128C
These guys look super, racially tolerant to me! [/sarcasm]

Graham
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Do you think your average, run-of-the-mill, cop is going to truly look for "evidential" signs of someone being an illegal immigrant?


When the average, run-of-the-mill, cop is being videotaped.. why not?

Do we even hold the ability to be that objective when it comes to inquiry of other humans as a COP?


Say, you are questionable about someone's age while they have beer. Are they going to be extremely offended by asking to see an ID of some sort? Instead of denying beer/going to jail, you could send them to an immigration office or just eject them from the state.

These guys look super, racially tolerant to me! [/sarcasm]


So, by law they should not judge others yet you judge them here?

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/52561649.jpg?v=1amp;c=IWSAsset&k=2amp;d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDEEF26F7BA80CF8996F2501983245E3B1942750C0FA7B143F06BF04B24B4128C


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Asherlee
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Graham, you are notorious for pulling paragraphs apart. In turn, you've lost the meaning. You are a thorn in a discussion, in my opinion.

Jimmy5151
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Personally, this is a dark day in American history. They might as well slap a Star of David onto the Mexicans there.


lol mexicans r catholics. maybe a cross or the virgin mary lol.
Graham
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The meaning of the whole is can you even trust a human to judge a person in the degree of executing law against them.

1. Cops are videotaped
2. It's not much different from judging age.

Drace
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Racist piece of shit.

Deporting illegals isn't gonna make life any better.

EnterOrion
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Deporting illegals isn't gonna make life any better.


Keeping them here makes it worse.

Anyways, considering how they are here ILLEGALLY this should have been nationally imposed since America day one.

In my book, this bill wins.

I could care a less if they are racial profiling or not, just get these illegals out of my country and keep them out.

If they came in legally I wouldn't hate them so much.

No, I am not racist. I don't care if they are Mexican, black, white, green yellow, blue or freaking rainbow, get them out.
Asherlee
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There are cameras in their cars and some on highways. This does not mean Jethro isn't going to step away from his vehicle to go harass a bunch of Mexicans.

And how can you say it isn't much different from judging age? Clearly, you have not been to a border town. You cannot look at someone and make an informed decision if they are illegal or not. I live in a city that is predominately Hispanic. There is no way to tell just visually.

This is a direct violation of some of our basic rights.

Asherlee
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Orion, tell me your argument for "illegals" making it worse here?

Graham
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This does not mean Jethro isn't going to step away from his vehicle to go harass a bunch of Mexicans.


In which case they report it and get on with their lives?

And how can you say it isn't much different from judging age? Clearly, you have not been to a border town. You cannot look at someone and make an informed decision if they are illegal or not. I live in a city that is predominately Hispanic. There is no way to tell just visually.


Here, we have the click it or tick it. You cannot get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. You can only be charged with it if there's another suspected offense with it. I'd suspect the same would be with this or it would be very tedious.



This is a direct violation of some of our basic rights.


Rights are something people should have.
Privileges are what people do have.
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