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redace333
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I just now found out about this forum and didn't notice a I.D. Vs E. thread so I decided to make one.

I am a Christian and believe in intelligent design is the way the world came to be.

What does everyone else think about this subject?

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redace333
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If i was a atheists it just seems logical to become a Christian. If i did that and atheism was true, what did i lose? nothing.
If Christianity was true, what did i gain?
Everything.

I think some smart guy said the same thing but i forgot his name.

I just still don't get the point.

Maverick5762
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One thing i do not get about atheists. Why do you debate on this forum? If you "convert" me to atheism and it turns out you are right, you gain nothing. Tell me if I'm wrong, but if we "evolved" from matter then we should have no purpose.


One thing I do not get about theists. Why do you debate on this forum. If you "convert" me to theism and it turns out you are right, you gain nothing. Tell me if I'm wrong, but what does arguing on a forum gain a theist more than an atheist?
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One thing I do not get about theists. Why do you debate on this forum. If you "convert" me to theism and it turns out you are right, you gain nothing. Tell me if I'm wrong, but what does arguing on a forum gain a theist more than an atheist?


We are doing God's work. We are spreading the word. Of course, I realize atheists argue in hopes to open the eyes of the world to their belief that there are no gods. So yea...
redace333
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Nomad

The reason i debate here is to strengthen my faith and to basically practice. So when i debate someone in the real world maybe i can convert them.

If you "convert" me to theism and it turns out you are right, you gain nothing.


Maybe, but the person that i converted would have gained everything.
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We gain a brother or sister I'm Christ, the approval of God (obviously conversion isn't necessary for salvation however), and we are follwing our Messiah's final command. We argue because we love you.

Maverick5762
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We are doing God's work. We are spreading the word. Of course, I realize atheists argue in hopes to open the eyes of the world to their belief that there are no gods. So yea...


Yeah. Converting more to atheism helps keep religions and religious issues out of politics and lawmaking! Like it should be. We are just doing our forefathers work and spreading their word!
redace333
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Very well put Samy.

Maverick5762
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We gain a brother or sister I'm Christ, the approval of God (obviously conversion isn't necessary for salvation however), and we are follwing our Messiah's final command. We argue because we love you.


And I argue because I want to increase the intelligence and open-mindedness of my countries people.
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Nomad

It would seem that your opinions are very close minded and ignorant of human culture but hey I'm the idiot who believe on God right?

redace333
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Nomad

Yeah. Converting more to atheism helps keep religions and religious issues out of politics and lawmaking!


But how does keeping religions and religious issues out of politics and lawmaking help anything?

And I argue because I want to increase the intelligence and open-mindedness of my countries people.


How does that matter though? if atheism was true people live for aprx 80 years in a good country. Then they die and... well... done.
It seems logical that you should do something "Fun" like play video games all your life or something.
Maverick5762
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It would seem that your opinions are very close minded and ignorant of human culture but hey I'm the idiot who believe on God right?


Why do you think my opinions are close minded of human culture? What do you even mean?

How does that matter though? if atheism was true people live for aprx 80 years in a good country. Then they die and... well... done.
It seems logical that you should do something "Fun" like play video games all your life or something.


Exactly... Enjoy life.
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I was thinking about life after death. Technically we do live after we die. Our bodies decompose and our atoms become part of everything. And there's nothing wrong with being more open minded.

wolf1991
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Why do you think my opinions are close minded of human culture? What do you even mean?


He means you have no understanding of human nature and the consequential cultures that form because of it. Isolate a group of people with no prior knowledge of modern life and they will adapt to the land, and form a religion. It's in our nature to want to explain things.
redace333
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Exactly... Enjoy life.

[sarcasm]To me, it doesn't seem like getting smashed in a debate with two "closed minded Christian weirdos" would be very enjoyable[/sarcasm]

I was thinking about life after death. Technically we do live after we die. Our bodies decompose and our atoms become part of everything. And there's nothing wrong with being more open minded.


Reminds me of a quote that My brother/Myself made up that I'm going to make into a bumper sticker:
"Don't be so open-minded your brain falls out"
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He means you have no understanding of human nature and the consequential cultures that form because of it. Isolate a group of people with no prior knowledge of modern life and they will adapt to the land, and form a religion. It's in our nature to want to explain things.


Well in this way I am not close-minded. I understand this exactly. We want to explore and explain things. I just think religion is an outdated way of doing this....
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