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Anyway, I was convinced a long time ago that redace is just rolling us.

I find it interesting how the average troll post and the average creationist post is nearly indistinguishable. However the troll does it by choice while the creationist really believes what they are saying. Considering a defining quality of a troll is willful and deliberate ignorance what does that say about the average creationists belief?

I think it means that We simply believe in creation, not getting into detail, but simply stating what we believe.

I think he was referring to the fact that both state rediculous ideas that incite flaming and completely ignore any evidence to the contrary of what they say. Either because of a strict belief or just to be a troll...

Arent u tired of Demagogy?Even an idea u just thought has already invented B.C. Theese arguments had done maybe a million times in history.You think we ve the latest tech. of all time?Pyramids dont say so.Medicine?Brain and hearth surgery has already done thousands of years ago as all we know thanks to science.Human mind cant go further than it observes by its solid senses a.k.a african tribes.So,what do u expect to find that early but more civilized ppl couldnt found?I m desperately attempting to say that science is only reinventing the truth spoken by the GOD which we already read and lived among the 18000 universes with unexplored 5 more spiritual senses every human carries which has been blinded by our choice of so called logic.

But god doesnt physically speak to everyone. I mean Joan d'arc seemed to have gods back. But for the rest of us, all we have is human written interpretations in ALL religions of whatever deity you chooose. People have created texts to explain gods actions. Its humanity that created god not the other way round. It shouldn't be about why we're here but rather why is the god here? Simple really. death is scary, dying for a pointless cause scarier still. Get people to throw themselves on swords by rewarding them with something irrefutably brilliant. Life after death. Thus religion. Back this up with impressive buildings and nice hats and 10000 years later people still killing each other under the impression there will be some reward for them. Its so stupid its funny. Go and die for a lot of good reasons just dont make it for an imaginary friend. As i like to call the supposed him upstairs to upset god squadders.

Please stop using creationist sites they aren't worth a **** thing and your mind would be better for it.

"Microevolution can be contrasted with macroevolution, which is the occurrence of large-scale changes in gene frequencies in a population over a geological time period (i.e. consisting of extended microevolution). The difference is largely one of approach. Microevolution is reductionist, but macroevolution is holistic. Each approach offers different insights into the evolution process."

Microbes. Bacteria live and die much faster than we do, and we can observe natural selection and in some cases, even speciation, with them.

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Can't find the link right now, but there is also a lizard that was transplanted from on environment into another who developed a completely new digestive system and social traits.

Just to name a few.

The fact that WE'RE MADE OF AMINO ACIDS is evidence enough. This is stuff they teach you in middle school science class.

Oh please. Observational evidence is not the only kind of evidence. And there is observational evidence anyway.

The Sun is a yellow star. That means it has hydrogen and helium in close-to-equal amounts. So it's losing them both, quite possibly in relatively equal amounts.

By Christians not having free will most mean that they fallow a set of rules. The book tells you what to eat, think, and act. How is that not making you a slave?

and ... open-mindedness.

Plus, even if we find ... real evidence against the theory stating that the birds evolved from those dinosaurs, then the theory would be shifted. Scientists wouldn't just stick to the ideas because that's what they think now.

Wow, Alt's posts and my posts keep getting bigger as time goes on.

Humans are a race who crave for answers. My belief is that gods are created for answers of which couldn't be answered before science. Hasn't anyone else noticed older civilizations had more than one God? Egyptians had gods for the tide, for crops, for the sun. But those gods don't exist anymore. Why? We've answered those questions. Our Gods now answer the questions science has yet to answer. How were we created and when. Then again, the most common symptom of mental insanity is self proclimation of being a &quotrophet". I'm not saying those who have religion are crazy but if that's the MOST COMMON symptom, it's unnerving to me. Besides, who cares? We're here now, that's all that matters.

We're here now, that's all that matters.

But of course that would only happen if Mormonism was true.

Hmm Didn't we decide somewhere that for most things to happen there must be some sort of universal constant, that is either God always existed, or Matter always existed. Anyways I think the argument for matter can be proven in reality, anyways anyone see The Secret Life of Chaos its interesting because it tries to explain how the order of things we have observed and applied in science is created from randomness

Honestly, there is no solid evidence to disprove God, for no matter how ridiculous they may sound to atheists,

there is always an explaination to every challenge they may present.

Wow, Alt's posts and my posts keep getting bigger as time goes on.