The so called "Evil" antagonist of the Bible. The question comes to this: Why is he the evil one? He killed a mere ten people in the Bible, possibly more to around fifty at most, while God, the supposed good one, killed billions. The only "negative" thing he did was rebel against god, but it was a just rebel. Who would want to live under that tyrant?
So the question comes down to: Why do Christians think Satan is evil?
So are you satan is bad or not, because now you just seem like a troll...
No youre trolling. I posed a question, backed with evidence that made it seem like satan might not be a bad guy, all you've said was huur durr number 3 answeres ur question. and I wanted you to elaborate, which in turn you say Im trolling. who is trolling now?
Well, God told them NOT to eat the fruit
yes but then why would god put tree in garden? it's just more questions than answers.
Im not saying you should stop believing in god, rather you should'nt just blindly follow a religion.
No youre trolling. I posed a question, backed with evidence that made it seem like satan might not be a bad guy, all you've said was huur durr number 3 answeres ur question.
*sigh* I was agreeing with you. ._.
yes but then why would god put tree in garden? it's just more questions than answers.
Well, God told them NOT to eat the fruit. Because of Satan's making them eat the fruit, they became mortal, and that's what Satan wanted and knew would happen.
It wasn't Satan, it was a clever snake. Satan had no part in this.
No youre trolling. I posed a question, backed with evidence that made it seem like satan might not be a bad guy, all you've said was huur durr number 3 answeres ur question. and I wanted you to elaborate, which in turn you say Im trolling. who is trolling now?
Actually that post may be considered trolling, thus you are trolling now.
Well, God told them NOT to eat the fruit. Because of Satan's making them eat the fruit, they became mortal, and that's what Satan wanted and knew would happen.
Satan didn't make them do anything. If fact there is nothing saying the snake was Satan. Furthermore if humans being moral was such an issue then God could have simply let them eat fro the second tree, but instead he again showed his petty nature and booted them out to prevent this from happening. Because he thought that by them doing so they would "become like us".
yes but then why would god put tree in garden? it's just more questions than answers
Simple. He was testing Adam and Eve. I know what you're thinking, that is always what theists say when confronted, but it's very true. Do not think of it as a cop-out for us, but just a large part of the explanation of God's nature. Just as algebra revolves around numbers, and language revolves around words, religion revolves around God's test for us.
It wasn't Satan, it was a clever snake. Satan had no part in this.
You're right. Because of Satan seducing them into...
Furthermore if humans being moral was such an issue then God could have simply let them eat fro the second tree, but instead he again showed his petty nature and booted them out to prevent this from happening. Because he thought that by them doing so they would "become like us".
Simple. He was testing Adam and Eve. I know what you're thinking, that is always what theists say when confronted, but it's very true. Do not think of it as a cop-out for us, but just a large part of the explanation of God's nature. Just as algebra revolves around numbers, and language revolves around words, religion revolves around God's test for us.
A test you already know the answer to is no test at all.
The snake is not Satan, it is a misconception of modern theist to blame everything on him. In the old testament he was good. Here is a tip, hit control plus f then search "Satan" on the book it links to=nothing pops up.
Who are you referring to when you say "us"
He was quoting the Bible, god seems to talk to himself using "Us" often in the start.
Simple. He was testing Adam and Eve. I know what you're thinking, that is always what theists say when confronted, but it's very true. Do not think of it as a cop-out for us, but just a large part of the explanation of God's nature. Just as algebra revolves around numbers, and language revolves around words, religion revolves around God's test for us.
If god knows everything that will happen what's the point of testing us?
A test you already know the answer to is no test at all.
Well that would make sense if we were free of original sin and partying in heaven (I know, that means worshipping God, so I might as well acknowledge it and avoid three pages' worth of argument). However, even when we know the answer we fail every day. So I guess you could say, a test you know the answer to is... uh... never mind lol.
The snake is not Satan
Um okay. How many talking animals are there on earth in the Bible?
He was quoting the Bible, god seems to talk to himself using "Us" often in the start.
Oh okay then. WELL. Why would he think that they would become "like us" if he's the one who created the fruit? He is all powerful and all knowing, so I'm going to say he probably didn't "think"anything. As look at that, they did not become like him? Any omnipotence or power? Nope. Just mortality.
If god knows everything that will happen what's the point of testing us?
Because he needed to give us a reason for our original sin. If he'd said, "okay, Adam and Eve are just going to fail, I'll just pin original sin on everyone," then we'd be up to our ears with threads asking "What's with original sin?"
Simple. He was testing Adam and Eve. I know what you're thinking, that is always what theists say when confronted, but it's very true. Do not think of it as a cop-out for us, but just a large part of the explanation of God's nature. Just as algebra revolves around numbers, and language revolves around words, religion revolves around God's test for us.
Actually I was thinking if that was a test it was an unfair and useless one.
That site isn't backing up the claim that the Snake was Satan in any way, it's just continuing the assertion. Best not to use creationist websites when trying to form a logical argument, It's like what they said about tv "it will rot your brain".
Who are you referring to when you say "us"
My bad, The actual concern was we already became like "them" and God didn't want them being immortal so he kicked them out to prevent them from eating the second fruit.
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." Genesis 3:23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
It would seem us possessing knowledge was a bad thing to God. But without this knowledge we wouldn't have been able to accurately follow his wishes. This would also seem to suggest that God wasn't the one who was interested in us having or at least using free will.
Um okay. How many talking animals are there on earth in the Bible?
Lets see here:
The snake: The donkey: The human race: Every animal before the fall: Some beasts after redemption:
So basically all heavenly beast talk...
Oh okay then. WELL. Why would he think that they would become "like us" if he's the one who created the fruit? He is all powerful and all knowing, so I'm going to say he probably didn't "think"anything. As look at that, they did not become like him? Any omnipotence or power? Nope. Just mortality.
There were two trees, the good tree that would give all that good stuff, and the tree they ate off of. After they ate off the first trees god booted them out before they ate off the second.
Because he needed to give us a reason for our original sin. If he'd said, "okay, Adam and Eve are just going to fail, I'll just pin original sin on everyone," then we'd be up to our ears with threads asking "What's with original sin?"
