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NoNameC68
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agewanted=all">This article talks about a school who's goal is to encourage children to befriend everyone they can, rather than hold certain friends above others. Simply put, they discourage children from getting too close to a single other person.

If a teacher spots two children who do seem very close, they will not break the friendship, but they will watch over them closely. As soon as one of the children feels hurt or if any of the other children feels hurt, the teachers take action by talking to parents to help their children with future relationships.

I already raged about this to someone over the phone, that way I would be able to type all this without telling Christine Laycob to go fuck her god damn self, that fucking whore. But I won't say that because I'm a good, responsible, moderator.

I understand that some people don't have a single best friend, but should teachers encourage children not to have them?

Do you have a single best friend, or are you good friends with everyone? Do you agree with what these teachers are doing?

Bonus: Tell us a story about a memorable moment you have had with one of your best/good friends.

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Avorne
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Oh course kids should have best friends!

People rely on best friends to share emotional stresses and joyous experiences, to pull each other through sadness and to lead each other to happiness and to help each other grow up in general. Without best friends, people would be emotionally stunted, chronically depressed and little more than children no matter how old they were.

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First I wanna say school isn't stupid. It's important, and in general school is great for socializing. Sorry, just all these "school is stupid" comments are ticking me off.

That being said, it is also obvious that there are some really stupid school administrators out there, and here is a perfect example. Their psychology talk is just BS; I say if everyone naturally develops close friendships with other people, and are happier for it, then what's wrong with that?

Lol "if two kids are close friends, we won't break them up, we'll just keep an eye on them and act at the slightest sign of distress"; jeez, you'd think this school has a secret police O_O

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haha its gonna end up being a really dumb idea.. But again like so many other people on here, through gr 1-11 i always had my group of friends.. In gr 1-6 everyone was basically "innoncent" at such a young age. Once you hit gr 7 thats when things start to change thow. Only in Gr 12 did i start being more outgoing and becoming friends with a large populous... Mostly because i drank and smoked pot during school (fantastic lifestyle right), but the chicks digged, and so did alot of other kids. So anyways, kids need there groups, because not everyone has the same interests. No matter what you do, one kid is gonna love video, one kid is gonna love sports, and one kid will love school, and another will love going on the illegal side of things,(just some groups). Your just gonna end up having more fun with one kid, and probably hate being around another. Personalities clash, its life...

anyways some of my best memories during high school, was dipping out getting my 18 yo friend to buy us beer, drinking and then just chilling in the field playing drunken soccer.. Yea defs a good time

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Having friends is all about school. They cannot say that kids cannot have friends when they are around each other every day. Learning is obvious, but taking friends away is just wrong. /slaps them.

- My memories: Is when I actually had friends. At 6th grade I went to homeschool and didn't have any. Now, I'm alright, but then I wasn't. Taking friends away is hard, trust me.

Drace
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Plus, I don't even learn anything in school. I learn everything off of the internet.


Dont you mean Glenn Beck?
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But comrades, don't you like this brilliant foreword thinking plan thought up by our great and noble comrades at this town's local Soviet?

To be serious, whoever came up with this idea needs to talk to a psychologist and if they are one they need to loose their degree. Hell, even a biologist could tell them their being a moron. This goes against human nature and is the kind of plan that can only end badly. The job of teachers is to teach facts, not to try social engineering. The children need to learn how to socialize on their own. The teachers might be able to give them advice but to do something like this is basically to destroy their social skills. We are a competitive species that mostly likes to form group and we can't get along with everyone, at least not at a higher than simply professional level. Their either going to have this plan blow up in their faces or send students into the real world expecting people to act friendly like they did at this school and I can tell you now they won't.

I've had a few good teachers, though most not until college. The last and best one from high school was actually a college professor in a duel credit class, criminal justice. He was an ex undercover cop and commonly wore his pistol on his hip. Very good teacher who did not like the school's administration and taught us a few things about how the public school system works (why it's a complete failure) as well as the subject. I really haven't had horrible professors, but they don't have to stick to a state approved plan so they can actually teach, not indoctrinate, though some do.

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i think that is wrong let the kids befriend who they want after all its impossible to be friends with everyone.

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I am different. It's hard to find someone else that is a good friend to me, I have one right now. She's more like my sister. (Brutally honest moment next) I can't befriend everyone, because some people just tick me off! Let us be friends with the people like us. Don't put us in the situation where we must be friends with any and everyone. I understand making us all be nice to each other, but no more than that.

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To defeat this school system... you help your friends, but your best friends help you...

Look School. It's nice you want your kids to befriend, but don't become Communistic to them. Everyone is the same and is treated the same way? You're treading on fantasies that you will never accomplish.

Bonus:
Friends are people who you hang out with. They are usually in your league and share the same likes and dislikes, along with doing the usual kid mischief stuff. Best friends are those that look out for you, care about you, and help you with your problems that you face or may face. They offer advice and guide you throughout your life.

Grade: 34/40

30 For the statement

+4 for the bonus

-6 for not answering Nemo's question and instead talking to the school like it's a poster in the forum.

Final Grade: 85% B

Comment(s): --I can live with that.
--Shut up Frank.

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Well I disagree with this. You should always have a best friend (my opinion) and a group of friends. But this is my opinion, and usually my opinion doesn't matter much.

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Some points of my thoughts:

1. Does keeping a best friend prevent one from making a group of friends? I think not.

2. Does adults really have the power to intervene the relationship of children, which ultimately links to the basic human rights? I think not.

3. Does keeping a bunch of friends without a best friend really make a child better in the future? I don't know, and they don't know, too. That's the problem: The adults are actually experimenting.

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Honestly, it's wrong.

It is teach kids that everyone is your friend, it's trying to teach kids that no one is your enemy, and everyone will always look after you.

Once those children leave school, and they then go and get a job, how does anyone get a promotion at work?

Person 1: I am going to ask the boss for a promotion today.
Person 2: I was going to do the same.
Person 1: Oh really? Well be my guest my 'friend', i will wait till another chance arises.
Person 2: No i do insist you go today as you did bring this matter up my 'friend'.

-.- Yes that is a bit over exaggerated, but far from the truth it is not.

In school at Sports Day, we are taught in England that it does not matter if you win or lose, it's the taking part and enjoying yourself with friends that matters.

Again another moral gone totally wrong, using my example above, how can anyone achieve anything if all they care about is having fun. Life is a competition, you either come out the winner, or your a loser like everyone else. These kids will have the biggest reality shock of there life when they leave school.

My best friend for 14 years now, fell for the 'life's meant to be fun with no winners or losers, just have fun' crap. He is leaving college and does not know where he wants to go, hes moving over to Cyprus to stay with me, but the problem is he thinks its all about having fun, and the competition in life does not concern him, if he gets a job somewhere he gets a job. And that's THIS generation the government screwed up, think of our children and our children's children who will be even worse off, so much so the government have technically brainwashed the children and have there own home grown army of idiots.

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Uproar, you're taking things a bit too far. The 'taking part that matters' thing? That's meant to be applied to sports NOT your future life/career - Any decent school will teach you that participating in team-building, sporting activities and learning to work with others is good and that if you win or lose the sport it doesn't matter. I should also imagine that any decent school (Or mine at least) would teach you to prepare for your career early and find out more about jobs, college, etc.

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Uproar, you're taking things a bit too far. The 'taking part that matters' thing? That's meant to be applied to sports NOT your future life/career - Any decent school will teach you that participating in team-building, sporting activities and learning to work with others is good and that if you win or lose the sport it doesn't matter. I should also imagine that any decent school (Or mine at least) would teach you to prepare for your career early and find out more about jobs, college, etc.



No my friend i really am not.

When i was younger we did sports day to compete, and to win. That's what life is, to strive to be the best and the only way to get there is to beat the rest. However arrogant that sounds its honest gods truth, you really cannot see people such as Sir Richard Branson, seriously getting to where he is now by being all friendly and a main team player? No he looks out for number one, and that's the position hes in.



As i got older the rule of 'in it to win it' was abolished.
Sports day may just be one event on team building, but its one event which can, has and will effect peoples mental thinking.
As for being prepared, as much as i would like to agree no, the schools around my area do not prepare anyone, i was lucky to have lived in a 24/7 working environment from the day i was born, i've got motivation and my head on my shoulders as to what to expect, as i stated my best friend is lost, and he is not the only one, a lot of my friends don't know what to do, none of them are prepared, so they all are going to university and choosing the same subjects as friends, because they are only going due to the fact they don't know how to support themselves away from a schooling environment. It's a waste, and it's the schools fault.

You can hardly blame the parents either for how everyone is turning out, when over 11hours a day for 5 days a week + extra time at weekends is spent doing school/homework for 11 years minimum, parents never see there children anymore.
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Uproar, I halfly agree with you.

In school at Sports Day, we are taught in England that it does not matter if you win or lose, it's the taking part and enjoying yourself with friends that matters.

Again another moral gone totally wrong, using my example above, how can anyone achieve anything if all they care about is having fun. Life is a competition, you either come out the winner, or your a loser like everyone else. These kids will have the biggest reality shock of there life when they leave school.


Kids should always be taught to try hard, but they should also be taught how to enjoy what they are doing.

Let's look at little league. Children are taught to have fun rather than to win. Many little league coaches don't even keep score. The kids play merely to have fun. They are taught sportsmanship. But what about working hard? Are they learning how to give it their best when there is no reward? For a little kid, they simply want to win for self gratification. Older kids find motivation in their friends and family.

Life is a competition, you either come out the winner, or your a loser like everyone else.


Competition is for business, but friendship and relationships often work off neutrality. You can be the smartest guy around, or the strongest, but to make friends you have to be fun, which is why so many morons have so many friends. Yes, they tend to fail when it comes to careers, but those who can balance being fun, smart, and strong are able to remain happy while thriving in their career.

Let me go back to little league. Children are taught to have fun and to not worry about winning, however, the kids who tend to play the most are those who try the hardest and in some cases the better players. If a coach focuses purely on having fun rather than winning, and fails to reward the kids who put forth an effort (i.e. letting them play more), then the children don't learn very much.

Let's now take a look at the classroom. Children should not be taught to never trust everyone else. They should not be taught to only have a few friends. Children should learn to be courteous to each other while also remaining competitive.

The reason children should not be forced or strongly pushed to become friends with everyone they know is because it is a lesson in life to learn who you can and can not trust. There is no better way to learn than to actually experience these issues. These children may have problems learning how to debate or how to be aggressive when necessary. This, I do agree with you.

Now a rant on uniforms... because too many parents and other adults are ignorant over protective gits.

I hate people who want to force public schools to uphold a uniform dress code. If everyone dresses similarly, it is said that nobody will be judged on the type of clothes they wear, or what their class in society is. I honestly have to agree. I think uniforms do help children get along better. I went to a private school up until 9th grade, and there seemed to be little conflict with classmates about such trivial matters.

However, I went to a public high school and I learned the hard way how much people judge you on what you wear, on how your hair is cut, on how you act, and so much more. I may have been shielded as a child, but as a teen I was paying the price. Of course, I learned to accept being judged. Now you have parents who want to put uniforms on teenagers. This will do nothing but harm them as adults. Not only that, but your teenage years are YOUR years to express yourself. We try to give young children time to play, we need to give teens time to be freaks, or time to be snobby mother fuckers, or to be the mature for their age.

In the end, things smoothed out. However, the transition from being overly protected to out on my own two feet were much more difficult than they needed to be.
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