This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!
Still waiting to see who can discern the human embryo from the other in the above. I'd especially like to hear from the anti-abortion crowd who think that one of them is a 'erson'. (I'll give you a hint, the one that isn't a human is a pig)
I don't understand what you hope to prove in this exercise. What does the appearance of the embryo have to do with... anything at all?
I'm hoping to get those who define 'any form of human life' as a 'erson' to examine their ideas and why they hold them to be true. We can obviously see in the images that NEITHER of those is a person, and that our concept of what makes a person a person obviously starts later in the gestational cycle than some may think.
Don't fancy reading the last few pages so all of what I say has probably already been said, but I'll write my opinion anyway.
You are essentially taking a life, but it's necessary. If everyone HAD to give birth, and not be allowed to abort, the overcrowding problem would be far worse than it is now. Also people abort because they were irresponsible enough to fall pregnant or/and can't take care of the child and provide it with food, shelter etc. In my opinion the most responsible thing they can do is abort it, after all it isn't born yet, so has no clue of life, or even it's own existence. So abortion is right
Herein I would like to sum up an article written by a Christian doctor: "One day, I was walking in a street, I saw some anti-abortion foundations doing their fund-raising. I remembered something happened some weeks ago... "...Some weeks ago, a poor mother brings a mentally challenged child to my clinic. Her child had caught a cold, under my diagnosis. I subscribed some medicine and ask the mother to pay a fee which is like 30% less than other clinics... "...She hesitated. Then she reluctantly took out the money. I peeped at her wallet and saw she didn't have much left. I finally decided not to take the money from her... (Note: the clinic is owned by the doctor personally) "...I finally learnt that you can be a saint a shout out "no more abortions!" to the public, but please do not force other people to be a saint like you. Many people can't afford to bring a challenged child to our world, and if the child is born, both the parents and the child will be painful, maybe for their whole lives."
The scene depicted was not happened in America, but the moral shown here can be applied worldwide.
so that was a trick question MR, and so was the hint? * falls off a cliff*
No, it was not a trick question. The image on the left is a human, the one on the right is a pig. You were correct in your guess. However I fail to see how someone could say that either is a 'erson'. It was intended to illustrate that the idea that abortion is the killing of a 'erson' doesn't seem to fit when you actually look at what is being killed. That is why I choose to define a person as 'capable of conscious thought' and accept that prior to 26 weeks gestation that the embryo, and then fetus, is not yet a person and thus abortion prior to this time should not be considered murder.
MRWalker, broccoli does not have blood. Broccoli is not human. "Do not shed innocent blood" means not to kill humans (or fetuses).
If the mother is going to die because if she gives birth, I am fine with her having abortion. Or if the mother is raped, even then I think it is right to be optional. Any other reason is immoral. Why must the mother have s*x before marriage anyway? If she does not want to have a baby, there is no point whatsoever; except that it feels good.
So, how about this: If the mother is just going to have abortion, why make love before marriage?
In other words, our genitals exist for no other reason than to reproduce (is that the right word for humans...?), therefore why should we eliminate the point of having s*x, and just abort the baby/fetus? Unless it is rappe, why the heck is abortion even necessary? Why does it exist? It seems like a rebellion.
MRWalker, broccoli does not have blood. Broccoli is not human. "Do not shed innocent blood" means not to kill humans (or fetuses).
"Shed blood" or any variation of such simply means to not kill. And fetus don't have blood, since they are part of the mother's body the blood is technically there mothers.
If the mother is going to die because if she gives birth, I am fine with her having abortion. Or if the mother is *****, even then I think it is right to be optional. Any other reason is immoral. Why must the mother have s*x before marriage anyway? If she does not want to have a baby, there is no point whatsoever; except that it feels good.
What makes you think they had sex before marriage? There are equal number of abortions in married couples. That is a huge false assumption...
So, how about this: If the mother is just going to have abortion, why make love before marriage?
Once again, you have the false assumption that it happens majorly before marriage, witch is not the case. And the reason they do so is probably either intimacy reasons or simply because it feels good.
MRWalker, broccoli does not have blood. Broccoli is not human. "Do not shed innocent blood" means not to kill humans (or fetuses).
I never said anything about broccoli. Might want to reread the post you are replying to.
If the mother is going to die because if she gives birth, I am fine with her having abortion. Or if the mother is *****, even then I think it is right to be optional. Any other reason is immoral.
Wait up here. You said earlier that abortion is wrong and it is murder. So in some cases murder is ok, but not in others? And who decides? And care to address how you define murder? Or person? How do we determine when we are killing a person and when it is not yet a person? You have conveniently avoided all logical and rational counters to your claim and have only addressed the most preposterous claims made. If you want to debate a subject then let's debate it in seriousness and in it's entirety, ok?
What makes you think they had sex before marriage? There are equal number of abortions in married couples. That is a huge false assumption...
I'm sorry, 314d1. That was a mistake. There is no point at all if it's going to be dead in the end anyway, even in marriages.
"Shed blood" or any variation of such simply means to not kill. And fetus don't have blood, since they are part of the mother's body the blood is technically there mothers.
And why did you post that...? I never said that "shed blood" doesn't mean to kill. Also (sorry, I'm just picky, but this particular typo in your post really annoyed me. Don't overreact.) "there" should be retyped as "their".
