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CrimsonRose
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This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!

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AircraftCarrier
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Masturbation also denies the possibility of life...

And what's your point? I assume that your point is spamming, then.
Avorne
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I'm just pointing out that a number of acts prevent the possibility of life and would like to pose the question - How is Abortion different?

rafterman
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And what's your point. I never said that it didn't.

My point is using condoms is not wrong and neither is abortion.
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You can't say abortion is either right or wrong; it strongly depends on the individual case and on the intention behind it. If someone wants to abort because she didn't pay attention before and just feels like 'oh, I don't know, I kinda don't feel like it', well, then I think it's wrong, shoulda be careful before. In some cases you have to assume what you did.
In other cases you must ask yourself: is it worth to save an unborn and risk to ruin the life of both the mother and the kid afterwards? If maybe something happened during pregnancy, if the mother can't afford a child all of the sudden? A child needs affection to grow up, if it is not wanted you could as well give it away or abort it.
I deny the idea of an absolute right or wrong, just be reasonable and take your time with your decision. .

AircraftCarrier
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You can't say abortion is either right or wrong; it strongly depends on the individual case and on the intention behind it. If someone wants to abort because she didn't pay attention before and just feels like 'oh, I don't know, I kinda don't feel like it', well, then I think it's wrong, shoulda be careful before. In some cases you have to assume what you did.
In other cases you must ask yourself: is it worth to save an unborn and risk to ruin the life of both the mother and the kid afterwards? If maybe something happened during pregnancy, if the mother can't afford a child all of the sudden? A child needs affection to grow up, if it is not wanted you could as well give it away or abort it.
I deny the idea of an absolute right or wrong, just be reasonable and take your time with your decision. .

In a nutshell, the majority morals say it all.
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Fact: Abortion increases risk of breast
Fact: While the issue of embryo life is debated, it takes away at least a potential life
Fact: Abortion clinics have been shut down, defunded, etc, for issues concerning the responsibility which they are held.

Although I don't enjoy saying one way or the other, abortion does have risks. If we were told 200 years ago that we would be doing things like this, we'd all think the person telling us was crazy.

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Fact: Abortion increases risk of breast

I'm assuming you mean breast cancer, and no, not fact, or at least not according to the World Health Organization, the U.S. National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists and the American Medical Association.

Fact: While the issue of embryo life is debated, it takes away at least a potential life

As do many other things.
Eless
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As do many other things


Mh hmm... and your point is..?

An interesting link
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[url]http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/BreastCancer/MoreInformation/is-abortion-linked-to-breast-cancer[/url]
[url]http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/abortion-miscarriage[/url]
[url]http://www.acog.org/from_home/publications/press_releases/nr07-31-03-2.cfm[/url]

Mh hmm... and your point is..?

That its not a valid argument when only applied to this situation.
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Masturbation also denies the possibility of life...


You lost me. There's no chance of making life at all so how does it deny life?
Avorne
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Because that... Ahem... Load could of gone into a fertile woman and potentially produced a potential life?

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For those of you saying abortion is wrong based on a religious stand point, did you realize the majority of abortions are done by God (if he exists as you say).

God's Abortions - The Atheist Experience #449

CrimsonRose
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I'm just pointing out that a number of acts prevent the possibility of life and would like to pose the question - How is Abortion different?


Because with condoms and masturbation, already alive beings are not killed. They are only prevented. I would rather it be prevented than killed.
Anything with its own cells are alive. Yes, the developing baby could not survive outside of the womb, but it is still its own cells, its own body; it is alive.

Killing animals or plants does not count as killing, because they are neither innocent nor guilty; therefore it is not killing innocent OR guilty life.
From the moment a human starts to grow, it has sinful nature, but it has not done anything wrong. Therefore killing it is shedding innocent blood.
Plants and animals don't have sinful nature or innocence, so killing them is not wrong.
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We are also merely animals so your point about killing isn't particularly useful. I could kill another person right now and claim that since they're only animals it doesn't really matter. Anyway - 'sinful' nature and innocence are merely things you deem to exist that don't have any physical manifestation nor demonstratable evidence - how do you prove that such things exist?

Also - a sperm cell is it's own cell - therefore by your logic it is alive and therefore equatable to abortion on your scale of immorality.

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Killing animals or plants does not count as killing, because they are neither innocent nor guilty; therefore it is not killing innocent OR guilty life.

I don't think you know how that works, if you did not do something wrong, you're innocent, if you did something wrong, you're guilty.
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