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CrimsonRose
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This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!

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holt24
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The same way I dismissed your arguments.


Ya that's right there just propaganda.

Yes, babies fit the description of parasite, and they can become humans, but they aren't.


Murdering a baby is the same as murdering any other human because if you murder a baby there will be one less human in the world.

Intelligence is irrelevent in defining a parasite.


They still cannot become humans.

The principle is the same, your argument was that fetuses were on their way to becoming humans, so are sperm.


But a sperm by itself cannot become a human.
holt24
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They can, since a fetus is a parasite...


In that regard a fetus would be the only one.

A fetus is just part of the process that makes babies, thus they are "as important as a piece of hair"


A fetus can become a baby but seperately sperm cannot.
314d1
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Murdering a baby is the same as murdering any other human because if you murder a baby there will be one less human in the world.


Yep. Lucky for us, a fetus is not a baby. It is a fetus...Are you confused about something here?

They still cannot become humans.


*Points to last argument* A fetus is a parasite, and can become human...

But a sperm by itself cannot become a human.


And a fetus by itself won't become human, it needs the mother, just as the sperm does...

In that regard a fetus would be the only one.


That is like saying magnetite is not a mineral because it would be the only magnetic one...

A fetus can become a baby but seperately sperm cannot.


You just said that, and I just said a fetus still needs the mom, just hast the sperm does...
holt24
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Yep. Lucky for us, a fetus is not a baby. It is a fetus...Are you confused about something here?


No you seem to be the confused one. How hard is it to understand that if you murder a fetus you are basicly murdering a human.

And a fetus by itself won't become human, it needs the mother, just as the sperm does...


Your right a fetus without a mother won't become a human same for sperm.
AnaLoGMunKy
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How about it is a babie and it feels pain?


Right... how do you actually KNOW this???
314d1
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No you seem to be the confused one. How hard is it to understand that if you murder a fetus you are basicly murdering a human.


The key word here is basically: I just committed genocide by not spreading my seed yesterday, if we are going by that terms sperm is "basically" a human...

Your right a fetus without a mother won't become a human same for sperm.


Thus there the same...
holt24
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The key word here is basically: I just committed genocide by not spreading my seed yesterday, if we are going by that terms sperm is "basically" a human...


But a sperm isn't basicly a human on it's own.

Thus there the same...


A fetus without a mother would be the same as a sperm without a mother just as a fetus with a mother is the same as a sperm with a mother.
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abortion is all right, the child was never fully alive, never had a concioussness, maybe never had a soul even, and wuld have no pain, nor joy.

Hypermnestra
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But a sperm isn't basicly a human on it's own.

Rofl. You seem to be using what you say very selectively...I'm going to use your exact words(from that very post) against you.
A fetus without a mother would be the same as a sperm without a mother just as a fetus with a mother is the same as a sperm with a mother.

And yet your argument is that a fetus is a human on its own. It is not. It requires its mother to survive, just as a sperm requires a carrier to survive.
holt24
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abortion is all right, the child was never fully alive, never had a concioussness, maybe never had a soul even, and wuld have no pain, nor joy.


Yes the child was alive and if you don't kill it it can have all of those things.
AnaLoGMunKy
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A fetus without a mother would be the same as a sperm without a mother just as a fetus with a mother is the same as a sperm with a mother.


So your saying fetus and sperm can be the same? Your running in circles here!
holt24
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And yet your argument is that a fetus is a human on its own. It is not. It requires its mother to survive, just as a sperm requires a carrier to survive.


You are not understanding what I am saying. A fetus will become a human with a mother. A sperm will become a human with a mother.
314d1
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But a sperm isn't basicly a human on it's own.


Nor is a fetus

A fetus without a mother would be the same as a sperm without a mother just as a fetus with a mother is the same as a sperm with a mother.


Yep, so whats the problem?

Yes the child was alive and if you don't kill it it can have all of those things.


It wasn't a child, it wasn't a person, and it wasn't really killed. If you don't wear condemns your sperm can become all those things. If you have sex every day with several different females your sperm can become all those things. However, since that is unlikely, your sperm die. Just as a fetus without it's mother dies. So either not having sex is wrong or abortion is right...
Hypermnestra
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You are not understanding what I am saying. A fetus will become a human with a mother. A sperm will become a human with a mother.

*facepalm*
Exactly my point. Where do you draw the difference between a sperm and a fetus? You yourself said...
But a sperm isn't basicly a human on it's own.

And a fetus isn't a human on its own, either. It requires a mother to survive.
holt24
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So your saying fetus and sperm can be the same? Your running in circles here!


Yes they are the same but only under certain cercumstances.

Nor is a fetus


This is agreed but you don't have abortions to fetuses without a mother.

It wasn't a child, it wasn't a person, and it wasn't really killed.
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