This topic is based upon your personal opinion on whether abortion is wrong or right. I personally believe that it is wrong, and have many reasons for it. You may challenge me if you wish, but please make sense!
My line is drawn when a baby is conceived. Sperm isnt a baby yet.
So hiden. You will draw the line where it pleases you. Is it not fair for there to be a consensus on when a fetus actually is a human baby. The sperm and egg make the parts of a baby, so why draw the line at the point of conception then run around calling it murder when others have differences of opinion? You are not being fair in neither judgment nor argument.
Tell me, at what point is it too late, at what point does the fetus become a human. 30 years ago, a 22 month old baby could not have survived out of the womb. Now, just becouse of advances in science, is it magicly a human?
At what point did you get to have a moral high ground and I mention again, run around calling people names and murderers. Also Science will be able to create life with neither sperm nor egg. At that point would you consider the changing of atoms from one energy to another to be "murder" because those atoms could have been used to create an embryo?
Hiden your arguments are terrible, yet you insult others when they give a rational point of view. Any rational that you arguments have are taken away by your attitude.
All my arguments have been totally legitimate. You just dismiss them to justify killing another human. They did the same thing with slaves. They justified it by saying they weren't human.
The difference? Slaves can think and feel pain. Thinking is what makes life worth anything, and fetus don't have that ability.
All my arguments have been totally legitimate. You just dismiss them to justify killing another human. They did the same thing with slaves. They justified it by saying they weren't human.
again not an argument it's not the same thing slaves are full grown humans who have been worked to the bone then killed they have feelings
a fetus is a tiny bunch of living cells not even classified as a human yet that's killed as humanely as possible
a fetus is a tiny bunch of living cells not even classified as a human yet that's killed as humanely as possible
Not classified as human? That's your opinion. But ultimately it should be the parent's choice. If you think about it, the "bunch of living cells" that is the fetus comes from the parent's themselves, and since they do not have a personality of their own then they belong to the parents.
When a women first learns she is pregnant does she tell her spouse "Im Pregnant! We are going to Have a Fetus!" or do you ever hear a pregnant women say "I can feel the Fetus kicking!". I use baby in the womb because thats exactly what it is.
When a women first learns she is pregnant does she tell her spouse "Im Pregnant! We are going to Have a Fetus!" or do you ever hear a pregnant women say "I can feel the Fetus kicking!". I use baby in the womb because thats exactly what it is.
does that mean a zygote is a baby? or a sperm? or an egg? or my skin cells? or a wet dream? well then sorry but i must have killeda lot of babies? no baby is a general term for it but doesn't make it a full baby
But not a fetus. We aren't talking about extremely late term abortions here...
At what point does a "fetus" become a baby? And how much different is a "fetus" from a newborn baby?
no it does not require thinking nerves can fire off randomly causing it to kick and what not haven't you ever heard of twitching?
There is footage of an abortion taking place where the baby tried to escape the needle. I would say it takes thinking to recognize and threat and then try to escape it.
oh for god sakes as avorne said late term abortion which is really iffy even for a pro choicer if you can show me footage of a FETUS yes FETUS you know that small thing that doesn't even look like a human not a full grown baby a FETUS i seem to have to repeat myself to get into your so called "brain" yes a FETUS kicking away FETUS and only a FETUS not a full grown baby but a FETUS trying to escape the needle then i will concede defeat yes a FETUS not the baby from that video but a FETUS FETUS FETUS
At what point does a "fetus" become a baby? And how much different is a "fetus" from a newborn baby?
Wow, cyrcle much?
The ability to think.
There is footage of an abortion taking place where the baby tried to escape the needle. I would say it takes thinking to recognize and threat and then try to escape it.
There is also footage of Luke Skywalker blowing up the death star, but that isn't put out by a credible source either. Its just propaganda.
I'm really tired of the argument, "is a sperm cell a baby or is a egg a baby" thats not an argument. When its concieved, thats a baby. Its a physical being. I've seen the BODY PARTS that a doctor SCRAPES OUT after he MURDERED the baby
I have seen cow fetuses, dissected pig fetuses, and I can say they look nothing like the final outcome...
At what point does a fetus be come a baby by your definition. because by your definition at the moment that thing kicking is a fetus, even though anyone with a brain would know its a BABY
The moment it starts thinking, witch is rather soon to the day its born. As someone else said, viruses move, but they are not alive.
