ForumsWEPRDrugs: Why not legalize?

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Devoidless
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The topic says it all.

Why do governments feel the need to make drugs illegal? If anything, it causes a lot more problems than there were before. If they were legalized, there would not be nearly as many violent actions over getting them since the prices would not be nearly as high. There would not been as many people over doing it with drugs, since it would eventually just become a normal thing in day-to-day life.

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Somers
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Hmm good point xzeno. If they did legalize it, the government would have limits on it, and certain regulations. So maybe then getting it illegaly would have been easier?

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I personally believe that the sale (and, by extension, the use) of drugs should be illegal simply because it only allows poor criminals who need money to make money. I would much rather let drug-dealers from the street sell heroin than give the government and CEOs another way to become ludicrously rich.


So you don't feel that those people having a more productive & useful job or function in society would be a good thing? What about the damage they do to innocents in turf wars, drive-by shootings, or physical/mental abuse on clients to whom they give drugs, and then come back later to collect?

That's the worst argument I've ever heard on this subject.
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I personally believe that the sale (and, by extension, the use) of drugs should be illegal simply because it only allows poor criminals who need money to make money. I would much rather let drug-dealers from the street sell heroin than give the government and CEOs another way to become ludicrously rich.


Drug dealers will hook and kill innocent people. I don't trust the government either but if the government did make more money, we would too. Letting the drug dealers run the marijuana bussiness is one of the most irresponsible and dumb things I have ever heard.
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they shouldnt be legal.

hellbrokenloos
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well my aunt is a cop, and i have tried pot twice so i think don't legalise them than everyone can get them kids, teens and other people

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don't legalise them than everyone can get them kids, teens and other people


They can still get it now
HiddenDistance
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well my aunt is a cop, and i have tried pot twice so i think don't legalise them than everyone can get them kids, teens and other people


So you tried pot, didn't like it, aren't hooked, and wouldn't bother with it if it was legal? Not a sound argument.

Caucasiafro is correct - it's not exactly difficult to get your hands on it. How much did you have to go through to get your hands on that pot?

If it was legalized, it's safe to assume the government would put an age limit on it, much like alcohol or tobacco. Now while it's not impossible to get your hands on those things as a teenager, I'd argue it's harder. Some stores might not check ID, but most do. I've never heard of a drug dealer asking someone if they're old enough to be doing whatever it is they're asking for.
Xzeno
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Drug dealers will hook and kill innocent people
No they won't. They will only 'hook' and, further down the road, kill people who purchase drugs. These people would not be innocent because they are guilty of possession of illegal narcotics. The only way that innocent people would be hooked and killed would be if the drugs were legal because then they would not have to commit a crime to get them. Regardless, no-one is responsible for the addiction and eventual death of an addict but the addict himself.
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Government regulation and tax of the trade, as well as the billions saved on law enforcement would enable public money to be spent on public education on the dangers of drugs and the treatment of current addicts, thus reducing the health risk for potential addicts. It may be the addicts fault, but that doesn't mean outside factors would not influence their decisions.

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@Xzeno: So you would rather have poor criminals make money by selling dangerous drugs to people then on welfare? That's just twisted. That is, assuming you're against welfare.

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So, for all that are for the legalization...can I have some points on the ups for it, and reasons why they outrule the negatives?

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Hugs not drugs. D.A.R.E. Rehab. Things made so you don't take drugs but yet you want to legalize them. Raise the tobbaco tax so much that people are bearly even buying them. SO why legalize. Shrooms,acid,heroin,crac,cocaine,marauana,meth, let cuba do that United States have better things to do.

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Hmm have any of you read this....


don't flame me, If you've figured out the "secret" behind it.

For those of you who are well read, don't spoil it for others.

This is an article against DARE.

Shrooms,acid,heroin,crac,cocaine,marauana,meth, let cuba do that United States have better things to do.


please make the distinction between "hard" drugs and "soft drugs".
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Wow that article really did hit home, unsurprisingly i also had a cop come to my 3rd grade class preaching about reporting drug users and such. In my opinion when most kids grow up they learn one basic rule of life friends don't snitch on friends, i know people who smoke pot and do crack they know i don't like it, they know I'll never do it but that doesn't mean that i'm going to tell the cops about it! When you're a kid remember how your parents tell you not to put your hand on the stove when its hot, do they tell you another time!? No, you get burned they'll fuss over you and bandage you up but they'll also tell you that you were warned then it's your fault. Humans don't learn from experience they learn from experience. There's the excuse about accidents but a tester in the car like a breathalyzer if the driver has a certain amount of drug substance in his blood system don't let the car start. If an employee is high the employer reserves the right to refuse to let him work or fie him, if he applies for welfare they will see if he's a regular drug user if he is, he doesn't get welfare people will learn weather by experience or by watching! Eventually this long and painful process will return much money to us and possibly end drug wars.

Whew what a spiel congratulations to anyone who reads that.

Kyouzou
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*that one section that has experience twice is actually supposed to say...

Wow that article really did hit home, unsurprisingly i also had a cop come to my 3rd grade class preaching about reporting drug users and such. In my opinion when most kids grow up they learn one basic rule of life friends don't snitch on friends, i know people who smoke pot and do crack they know i don't like it, they know I'll never do it but that doesn't mean that i'm going to tell the cops about it! When you're a kid remember how your parents tell you not to put your hand on the stove when its hot, do they tell you another time!? No, you get burned they'll fuss over you and bandage you up but they'll also tell you that you were warned then it's your fault. Humans don't learn from being told they learn from experience. There's the excuse about accidents but a tester in the car like a breathalyzer if the driver has a certain amount of drug substance in his blood system don't let the car start. If an employee is high the employer reserves the right to refuse to let him work or fie him, if he applies for welfare they will see if he's a regular drug user if he is, he doesn't get welfare people will learn weather by experience or by watching! Eventually this long and painful process will return much money to us and possibly end drug wars.

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