Why do governments feel the need to make drugs illegal? If anything, it causes a lot more problems than there were before. If they were legalized, there would not be nearly as many violent actions over getting them since the prices would not be nearly as high. There would not been as many people over doing it with drugs, since it would eventually just become a normal thing in day-to-day life.
You can't look at it globally because it only effects the USA.
That is totally untrue. The black market affects the whole world.
Considering we were talking about moonshine in US, you can't talk about global black market, which is not a part of US moonshine.
And can you list a valid source for that information?
ok I can't find anything that says a specific or general number, but this article talks about moonshine and something about costs. [url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=91768&age=1]
Considering we were talking about moonshine in US, you can't talk about global black market, which is not a part of US moonshine.
You said it only affects the U.S.A., which is not true. Therefore, I wasn't talking about global moonshine; I was simply correcting you, because that was wrong.
ok I can't find anything that says a specific or general number, but this article talks about moonshine and something about costs. age=1">
Oh my god. People,you link like this. [url=URL GOES HERE Easy. age=1">Fixed your link. So a lot of money is still made from moonshine, I won't dispute that. But it's a lot less than it was during the Prohibition.
Sooooooo . . . no numbers at all, meaning that your point is essentially unsupported. Right. -_-
Well...if you look hard you can see a few mentions here and there, although it never actually states anything about the numbers outright. "multimillion-dollar ring" See?
Yep, the moonshine industry is large. But guess what, Moe? Your article SUPPORTS MY WHOLE ARGUMENT. It says that moonshine is dying out in some places, going just as well as it always has in others - meaning that since legalization, the black market shrank drastically and continues to shrink. It went from all alcohol to a small percentage of alcohol, and the same principle is true for other hard drugs.
Well...if you look hard you can see a few mentions here and there, although it never actually states anything about the numbers outright. "multimillion-dollar ring" See?
Either way, his point lacks the key support it relied on earlier.
You said it only affects the U.S.A., which is not true. Therefore, I wasn't talking about global moonshine; I was simply correcting you, because that was wrong.
I was correct because of what was said before, we were talking about how legalizing things would effect the USA, not the whole planet.
[/quote]Yep, the moonshine industry is large. But guess what, Moe? Your article SUPPORTS MY WHOLE ARGUMENT. It says that moonshine is dying out in some places, going just as well as it always has in others - meaning that since legalization, the black market shrank drastically and continues to shrink. It went from all alcohol to a small percentage of alcohol, and the same principle is true for other hard drugs.[quote]
So the fact that its been legal nearly 100 years means nothing? The black market didn't shrink drastically, and it was cops that shrank it, not the fact that alcohol was legal. Its dieing now because cops have been spending millions every year to catch them.
Either way, his point lacks the key support it relied on earlier.
How did you come to that conclusion? One group of moonshines made millions. There are way more moonshiners than that and if there are about 100 groups that big then moonshine is a multi billion dollar industry.
So the fact that its been legal nearly 100 years means nothing? The black market didn't shrink drastically, and it was cops that shrank it, not the fact that alcohol was legal.
I don't mean that the moonshine black market has shrunk since re-legalization, I mean the whole alcohol trade. During Prohibition, it was all illegal. After it was re-legalized, only moonshine remained illegal, drastically shrinking the black market. Also, the article says that a lot of the moonshine industry in Texas is just dying, not necessarily just being destroyed by cops.
The black market for alcohol shrank when alcohol was legalized. That is fact. The pattern will stay true for hard drugs, because the common consumer would rather buy legally than illegally in the first place.
How did you come to that conclusion? One group of moonshines made millions. There are way more moonshiners than that and if there are about 100 groups that big then moonshine is a multi billion dollar industry.
You don't have hard numbers - all we know is that it's a big industry. That's important to know, and supports your point, but it is not definite that it is a multi-billion dollar industry in the context of the debate because you haven't given hard numbers to support that claim.
Note to everybody: "Cops" is actually an insulting term for police officers. Criminals came up with the nickname "Coppers", referring to their copper badge back in the day, and now it's evolved. Show some respect, and refer to them by their proper name. Sorry, but I just felt like saying that.
I said the moonshining market in the US only effects the US.
Affects. Not effects. Affects. Affects is a verb; effects is a noun. You affect something. Something feels your effect. See? Now, moving on. That is untrue as well. It affects other countries as well; Mexico and Canada in particular, due to illegal trading over the border. Just like drug cartels in Mexico affect the U.S.
Basically, my main point is that legalizing illegal drugs will make them less dangerous due to the vast majority of the products being mass-produced and less likely to be contaminated, and it will shrink the black market because the common consumer will jump ship. There will be less money circulating in the black market, the cartels will lose money and become smaller, and less people will die from illegal drugs either by ingesting them or trading them.
