ForumsWEPRDrugs: Why not legalize?

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Devoidless
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The topic says it all.

Why do governments feel the need to make drugs illegal? If anything, it causes a lot more problems than there were before. If they were legalized, there would not be nearly as many violent actions over getting them since the prices would not be nearly as high. There would not been as many people over doing it with drugs, since it would eventually just become a normal thing in day-to-day life.

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Moe
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Everything you just posted is a temporary effect that only occurs while you are high, none of it last beyond that. It is also not a problem for those who use marijuana responsibly.

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zakyman
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Only if it is to relief severe pain, and no coke or XTC.

quakingphear
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@Legion 1350.

I think you ought to look at the wikipedia page for heroin. Just saying, pot is nowhere near that bad. And the feelings of paranoia generally come when you smoke sativa marijuana plants. Indicas don't generally do that. There are different strains that produce different 'highs'. Another problem is that people are quick to lump marijuana into one item, hence why industrial hemp is illegal.

And you know how to fix cottonmouth? Drink some water, get hydrated. Same way you get rid of it when you drink too much. Same way to prevent/cure a hangover.

As for making giant fines for first time drug users, that wouldn't work either. In the end it would likely cost the government more money. If the fines are too big, then the accused can't pay them off. They go to jail, and it's the taxpayers dollar to keep them in there for carrying an ounce of weed. And I'm not using hyperbole for the ounce part. Heroin, meth, cocaine? Yeah lock them up and then get them some help for their addiction. No one seems to want to help these people. I'm happy to pay for that. But if someone gets busted for a roach? that's a drain on the prison system.

No one smokes a bowl and goes home and beats their wife to death, or sells all their stuff or steals a VCR to buy more pot.

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there are many other items to legalize. why legalizing bad items?? Look, By doing this, we are ourselves creating a havoc and allowing people to go for it.

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My only problem with legalizing medical marijuana is that somehow, somebody will bypass the whole system of identifying a reason to have medical marijuana (i.e. epilepsy, cancer, etc.) and will get the license that they don't really need, and abuse the fact that they have a marijuana license by legally buying pot, illegally. This is basically what Doug Benson did in his documentary, Super High Me, which I like to call "the worst F-ing movie of all time". So, going back to abusing this license, it is a direct transition into my first argument concerning marijuana, which is:

However, there is the argument for marijuana that it is not dangerous, nor addictive. But, you have to assume if these drugs are legalized, the level of productivity in the United States will plummet because people will be doing drugs, and that's the last thing we need, with a failing economy, and a national debt of over 14 trillion dollars
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Drugs should not be legalized!

Every one who is saying that alcohol is just as bad as marijuana is completely correct. Does that mean that marijuana should be legalized, no it doesn't. I won't even mention the negative side effects of either alcohol or marijuana because the immediate short term effects are bad enough as is.

Some of you mentioned that if you smoked marijuana responsibly it would be fine but if marijuana was legalized people would not use it responsibly in 1982 60% of car accidents in the US involved drunk drivers. Why would people use marijuana any more responsibly than alcohol.

People need to stop comparing marijuana's illegality to the prohibition era. Marijuana isn't legal to begin with in the US unlike alcohol which was taken away from the public, we find that Americans, when something is taken away from them get really angry. This is not the same as not legalizing something that is already illegal.

Do I even need to mention why drugs like cocaine and heroin need to stay illegal? Because I seriously hope not.

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I won't even mention the negative side effects of either alcohol or marijuana because the immediate short term effects are bad enough as is.


Alcohol is considerably worse in both the long term and short term effects it has on the human body.

Some of you mentioned that if you smoked marijuana responsibly it would be fine but if marijuana was legalized people would not use it responsibly in 1982 60% of car accidents in the US involved drunk drivers. Why would people use marijuana any more responsibly than alcohol.


As the world is decriminalizing/allowing marijuana to be used we are finding that with restrictions on where it can be used people are using it responsibly.

People need to stop comparing marijuana's illegality to the prohibition era. Marijuana isn't legal to begin with in the US unlike alcohol which was taken away from the public, we find that Americans, when something is taken away from them get really angry. This is not the same as not legalizing something that is already illegal.


All I could find was the laws against marijuana started in the early 1900's, it was legal for more than half of the United States history.
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People need to stop comparing marijuana's illegality to the prohibition era. Marijuana isn't legal to begin with in the US unlike alcohol which was taken away from the public, we find that Americans, when something is taken away from them get really angry. This is not the same as not legalizing something that is already illegal.


George Washington and many other colonial farmers grew hemp on their plantations. At the very least we should decriminalize industrial hemp. The term 'cannabis' is derived from 'canvas', as hemp was used to make canvas sails on ships.

And while we're looking into the history of the illegality of certain drugs, here's a fun fact. Cocaine was used in the United States medically for many years. People put in everything, I'm guessing most of you know about the original Coca Cola.
Many dock owners gave cocaine to black dock loaders because it improved their work ethic and speed. It became illegal because people thought that cocaine would cause black men to go crazy and **** white women. The first laws against it were born out of racism and fear. Now we know that it harms people, and the laws surrounding cocaine are there for better reasons.

The more you know! (Insert Rainbow)
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im happy to live in holland! hurray for legal weed!

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im happy to live in holland! hurray for legal weed!


'Remember; do never go to Holland!'

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Alcohol is considerably worse in both the long term and short term effects it has on the human body.


So because it is safer to poke a Diamondback rattle snake than it is to poke a coral snake I should go ahead and poke the Diamondback. WTF people you shouldn't drink or smoke marijuana! You would think this was common sense!

As the world is decriminalizing/allowing marijuana to be used we are finding that with restrictions on where it can be used people are using it responsibly.


Can you present a reliable source with this information please?
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What if we replace ciggarettes with marijuana. Ease people into the change.

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So because it is safer to poke a Diamondback rattle snake than it is to poke a coral snake I should go ahead and poke the Diamondback. WTF people you shouldn't drink or smoke marijuana! You would think this was common sense!

Just because you don't want to take the risk to poke a snake that is hiding a treasure, doesn't mean that everyone else can't do it.

Can you present a reliable source with this information please?

Um, just look at the Netherlands, I even posted a quote that Netherlands drug policies said about regulations.
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So because it is safer to poke a Diamondback rattle snake than it is to poke a coral snake I should go ahead and poke the Diamondback. WTF people you shouldn't drink or smoke marijuana! You would think this was common sense!


If the coral snake is a high grade pain killer, that will dissolve my liver over time, and marijuana is the diamond back, and either one will help me with my pain, I'm poking the diamond back.

WTF people you shouldn't drink or smoke marijuana!


I think you meant to say don't drink alcohol, but actually there are THC tinctures. It's pretty much a liquid form of the chemical in marijuana that gets people high. It's very useful to people who can't smoke pot, like people with lung and throat cancer. Same thing with edibles, you can eat THC as well for the same reason.
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