ForumsWEPRThat (in my opinion) IDIOT burning the koran on 9/11

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wwiifan
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If you know what I'm talking about, I hope you agree with me that he is a complete moron. He is putting our troops over in Afghanistan at risk, by making 'moderate' muslims 'extreme' muslims. Post your ideas on this topic here:

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Avorne
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Remember that Christians used to be how many Muslims are today.

grimml
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I think it's wrong. If you want to burn a koran then also burn a bible and all other religious books.

holt24
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Hmm ah what?Do you know what the discussion is about?He was going to burn the koran because he thinks it's evil he doesn't think all religion is evil.

Sonatavarius
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yes yes... christians acted the same back in the crusades. whether its due to christianity having spread other places in the world and our outlook has evolved to suit the new regions and life styles or not... the muslims we're dealing with now (yes there are lots that also cause problems in asian countries) are in the same place fighting the same wars over the same "holy ground".... our boys are over there in the middle of it. and those muslims are jusst as extreme now as back when they were fighting the christians back in the crusades.


I do acknowledge that the muslim people are a peaceful people and that only an infinitesimally small proportion of them are the ones causing the problems... but with probably almost a billion muslims a small proportion of them still equates to a large number of people. My problem isn't with muslims but with those that would prefer me to be dead. therefore when i say things about muslims that may be seen as bad I am referring to the angry ones and not the larger population with which i have no problem

Sonatavarius
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i think the man was wanting to burn Koran's because it is his right to do so if he so chooses in this country... and the other part of it was so that he can send a messsage to all those who burn our flags and spit at our beliefs (the spitting part was more a concept and not actual spitting... but may actually be spitting if they have done that)

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I see the crusades as more of a retaliation to muslim atacks like when they invaded Iberia.Whethere they were right or wrong it's not like they didn't do anything to deserve it.

grimml
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Hmm ah what?Do you know what the discussion is about?He was going to burn the koran because he thinks it's evil he doesn't think all religion is evil.


I know. Cause he's also an extremist (in my eyes). I just wanted to say that Islam isn't better nor worse than other religions. The bible and koran are actually pretty similar... And I think that both are bad for our society. They were written like 2000 years ago, before the enlightenment and all other social reforms/revolutions. You shouldn't believe what was written by some old crazy people (sorry if I offend somebody, but that's my opinion).

back to the topic: The burning of a book of just one specific religion will just heat up the conflict between the Middle East and the Western countries. Especially if it's done by an extremist Christian.
Sonatavarius
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well then........ define for me when something becomes too old to read seriously. Alot of social evolution has occurred since this nation was founded. should we or should we not still adhere to our foundation or should we rend ourselves from the ground our forefathers planted us and go in a different direction? old people usually become old people by being somewhat intelligent... just saying

holt24
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Well don't worry about offendnig me I don't care about being offended.I think people have already explained that muslims becoming terrorists because of the book burning is just an excuse.

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should we or should we not still adhere to our foundation or should we rend ourselves from the ground our forefathers planted us and go in a different direction?


If the foundation is upsetting progress then yes, otherwise its good to respect your elders...

...now bow to me.
grimml
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.I think people have already explained that muslims becoming terrorists because of the book burning is just an excuse.


That's not what I said. I said that there are conflicts between the Middle East and the West. There are religious, cultural and economic reasons (and propably a lot more...). And the burning of the Koran will propably not make this better...
BTW everyone has the freedom to do whatever he wants (unless you take somebody other's freedom). For example I didn't like that Southpark couldn't show Mohammed (or Allah, I don't know more exactly) in one of their episodes. I don't think that it's bad if you criticize a religion (or all religions :P). But the burning of the koran is just a statement that you hate this religion... It doesn't say why or what's exactly bad... That's how I see this.
holt24
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The reason there are conflicts between the middle east and the west is all because of islam.Islam is more than just a religion it encompasses all of middle eastern society.

Avorne
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Only in the same way that Christianity has done the same to Western society.

holt24
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Well I am going to have to disagree with you on that Avorne.I don't see how Christianity controls the way people can legally beleive because if Christianity did act the same way Islam does you would not be allowed to say that.

grimml
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The reason there are conflicts between the middle east and the west is all because of islam.Islam is more than just a religion it encompasses all of middle eastern society.


Only in the same way that Christianity has done the same to Western society.


That's right. The problem (to me) isn't that Islam is more than a religion, but that it is a religion... Religions- or actually the ones who preach it- influence people... You are propably also influenced by christian morals etc...
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