ForumsWEPRCarbon 14, Millions of Years is Not Possible.

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Alexander116
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Carbon 14 is not that complex really. When cosmic rays bombard earth's atmosphere, they produce neutrons. These neutrons then collide with nitrogen atoms in the atmosphere, changing them into radioactive carbon-14 atoms. The carbon-14 is then absorbed by plants during photosynthesis. When the animals eat the plants the carbon-14 is then absorbed into there bodies, and when other animals eat that animal it is absorbed into them also. All of us have the same amount of carbon-14 in us currently and the carbon-14 slowly leaks out by turning into nitogen-14 and escaping but we, by eating, continually re-absorb it at the same rate. When an animal or plant dies the carbon still leaks out in this way but it is no longer being brought back into the body and me can measure the rate at which it leaves (the basis for carbon-14 dating) the problem with this is that all the carbon will leave any dead organism in about 11,460 years. So if we are finding this carbon in dinosaur ones and fossils these fossils can be no older than about 11,460 or else they would no longer contain carbon-14! This is why I believe that it is impossible for the millions of years necessary for the evolutionary process.

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Alexander116
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Wolf1991,

Again My statement about C14 has not been debunked and it is conclusive scientific findings that gives at lease reasonable doubt on the millions of years timescale! and w/o the millions of year timescale microbe to man evolution is not possible so I would venture to say that this at leased gives reasonable doubt on the of theory evolution.

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wolf evidently you fail because you just said they did you have ate your own words and can not controdict me darn.

wolf1991
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*shakes head*

I give up. Someone else deal with this idiot. The answer is atoms have half lifes. That's the basic answer. You don't like it I can't help it.

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To BlackVortex
I'm starting to think that you didn't read any of my links!

[url=http://christwire.org/2009/05/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof-for-intelligent-design/]

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wolf evidently you fail because you just said they did you have ate your own words and can not controdict me darn.


your might be the most un educated person on AG so far CONGRATS! did you even look at my link? i think not what proof do you have other than "well this doesn't have a half life so atoms don't!" you sound like a retard what are you? 12? 10? 13? come on you don''t even have a brain! /pushed off the edge due to stupidity shown
Alexander116
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It is true Radio Isotopes and Unstable atoms like C14 do eventually break down giving them a half-life, but Stable atoms like iron203 among other are stable and do not break down so they have no half lives.

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Again My statement about C14 has not been debunked and it is conclusive scientific findings that gives at lease reasonable doubt on the millions of years timescale!


C-14 is a naturally occurring molecule in the atmosphere and in the sediment. It is found in fossils due to it's presence in the water and in atmosphere. It seeps into the rock in and around the fossil. This is why we use multiple molecules in radiometric dating. This has already been explained to you several times.
Alexander116
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Guess who is in violation of another rule
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Guess who is in violation of another rule
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me? i'm sorry but his stupidity pushed me over even you believe in half lives in atoms RIGHT?
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to MRWalker82,

C-14 is a naturally occurring molecule in the atmosphere and in the sediment. It is found in fossils due to it's presence in the water and in atmosphere. It seeps into the rock in and around the fossil. This is why we use multiple molecules in radiometric dating. This has already been explained to you several times.


Again, the C14 can not enter and stay in the fossil unless the animal is alive! Plants process it through photo synthesis and animals get it by eating the plants or other animal that have eaten the plants.
Once the animal has died it no longer has any means of getting the C14! I have already explained this to all of you several times.
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Guess who is in violation of another rule
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You know, you really make me laugh. You cannot present a valid argument in defense of your position so you badger everyone until they get frustrated at repeating themselves. Then you have the audacity to quote rules. You have been trolling, if you want to get down to the nitty gritty, and in the interests of education we have humored you and provided you with overwhelming evidence and facts in support of our position. If you want to debate, then debate. If you want to troll then go to Kong.
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to locoace3,

Yes I do agree with you that atoms have a half life but there is simply no reason to be mean. Keep a hold of yourself and stay calm, I'd suggest stepping away from your computer if you get a little steamed at the collar.

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Again, the C14 can not enter and stay in the fossil unless the animal is alive!


Actually it can, and I've already explained that to you. Molecular particles are found numerous times in ground water and in sediment. Through erosion, and the absorption of water into the ground (seepage) it finds its way into the rock in lower layers and deposits sediment and molecules into porous surfaces, like fossils. As I said before, this is because it is a naturally occurring isotope found all throughout our atmosphere, in our water, and in sediment.
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To MRWalker,
Here is the actually definition for trolling: informal Computing send (an e-mail message or posting on the Internet) intended to provoke a response from the reader by containing errors.
So as you can see I have not been trolling at all.

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Yes I do agree with you that atoms have a half life but there is simply no reason to be mean. Keep a hold of yourself and stay calm, I'd suggest stepping away from your computer if you get a little steamed at the collar.


dun worry my anger usually lasts the length it took me to type the post i vented it out and you have to agree he must be un educated
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