Christmas is originally a Christian holiday to celebrate Jesus's birth. Now it mainly about Santa and presents. What could be done to recenter the holiday back on Christ?
[quote]So, we have this holiday and I think the most we should get out of it, is that altruistic feeling we try to strive for, I suppose. As corny as it sounds, I really do enjoy giving gifts to people. The food is good, the movies on TV are also corny, but good.[/quote
But this is the good stuff! We'd be much more friendlier if all the delights in life weren't sworn off on the basis of "cheesiness". Besides. That's subjective lol
I do agree that this stuff is the importance of Christmas.
People often read the story of christ and go to church on chrstmas eve.
I often go to Olive Garden on Christmas Eve, does that mean I'm keeping the Italian in Christmas?
I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't stress out and actually enjoys the holiday.
Here, here. Christmas is a time for relaxing and loved ones, if that so happens to be god for you more power to you but there still isn't anything to put back.
I'm pretty sure the Church moved Christmas to the winter so that it had holidays at the same general time as the pagans did, why they wanted t compete I don't quite remember.
I often go to Olive Garden on Christmas Eve, does that mean I'm keeping the Italian in Christmas?
All hail Lord bread stick!
if that so happens to be god for you more power to you but there still isn't anything to put back.
...HAHAHAH take a history class kid. It is a pagan holiday that the Christians "Chritianafied" to fit there needs (Like they did with every other "Christian" holiday, Halloween, Easter, etc. Winter solstice FTW!
"How it catches on"? Dude, it came before the Christians messed with it - it doesn't have to 'catch on' - it's the original. Quite frankly, if you wanted to think about it this way, millions of people have been unknowingly celebrating a pagan festival for hundreds of years now.
If you individually want to celebrate Christmas specifically as a Christian I couldn't care less, heck I'd even encourage you to do it but you can't put Christ back in Christmas because the holiday wasn't originally Christmas.
As a side note this still makes me mad, there's no reason to spend money telling people God doesn't exist especially this time of the year. Want to do something donate? Donate to a foundation giving kids Christmas who's parents can't afford it.
Lul 314d1 my bad I thought you were talking about mine (probably because it was right after mine)
Dude, it came before the Christians messed with it
Then I guess I ought to be proud how well nasty old Catholicism's stupid stolen holiday {name} caught on. *cheers*
If you individually want to celebrate Christmas specifically as a Christian I couldn't care less, heck I'd even encourage you to do it but you can't put Christ back in Christmas because the holiday wasn't originally Christmas.
I think that's more of a metaphor telling people they should be giving instead of getting. Kind of a "spirit of Christmas" deal.
As a side note this still makes me mad, there's no reason to spend money telling people God doesn't exist especially this time of the year. Want to do something donate? Donate to a foundation giving kids Christmas who's parents can't afford it.
Your referring to the FFRF billboards, correct? They actually do it all year around in an attempt to get atheist to "Come out of the closest". Ah, a different matter altogether.
What I find more interesting is the fact that Christians copied the add and made there own version. If you are saying that the atheist are wasting money, what do you think of them?
Christmas is originally a Christian holiday to celebrate Jesus's birth.
D'oh! Actually, it was a Pagan holiday first, Yule. The Christians made it Christmas back when they were trying to annex the Pagan religion. Jesus was actually born sometime in the spring, if I'm not mistaken.
Now it mainly about Santa and presents.
I see no problem with this. Presents are good. Red-suit-wearing obese pedophiles, not so good, but presents cancel it out xP.
What could be done to recenter the holiday back on Christ?
Technically, this should be "what could be done to recenter the holiday back on Odin"?
Factual discrepancies aside, I see no reason why this should be reconverted back into a Christian holiday anyway. We atheists are enjoying Christmas, why take it away from us?
I think that's more of a metaphor telling people they should be giving instead of getting. Kind of a "spirit of Christmas" deal.
Actually the way I have heard it it has been "Make this holiday more religious!". Like they want more Jebuz to be in and less of the good stuff, the trees and the Santa Clause.
Your referring to the FFRF billboards, correct? They actually do it all year around in an attempt to get atheist to "Come out of the closest". Ah, a different matter altogether.
The ads in the links are referring specifically towards the holidays.
What I find more interesting is the fact that Christians copied the add and made there own version. If you are saying that the atheist are wasting money, what do you think of them?
The same goes for them, except their are simply affirms there beliefs not insulting the beliefs of other, they didn't start it, and they actually have an affirmative position.
I'm no fan of the catholic church but of the two groups they're more in the right.
Actually the way I have heard it it has been "Make this holiday more religious!". Like they want more Jebuz to be in and less of the good stuff, the trees and the Santa Clause.
I guess there's either a positive or negative way to look at it. I think you'd have a hard time proving that christians did that to eliminate Santa.
The same goes for them, except their are simply affirms there beliefs not insulting the beliefs of other, they didn't start it, and they actually have an affirmative position.
Ahh, but by affirming their beliefs, it could be argued that they're insulting the beliefs of others. They're basically saying 'we're right, you're wrong - our beliefs are X and they are better than yours'.
