Did you watch the whole thing?
No, I was talking specifically about the clip. I should have been more clear that I watched only that single clip. I did not mean to sound as if I was judging the video as a whole.
So strictly speaking its not lying... by law... but really it is, just not by law. And this makes it fair and ok?!?
This should be illegal. I will agree.
Why is it that someone is always quick to point out the manipulation that a program such as this uses to make a point as if it is worthy of dismissal and debunking and yet defends the manipulation that a government/corporation uses.
It's merely to point out that manipulation is everywhere. Manipulation in general is not wrong or right, but a tool. Sometimes we manipulate situations without even noticing.
Is killing your population to manipulate them into a war by blaming the "enemy" and painting an untruthful picture of them as oppressors and boogiemen ok. Because there is a line most people would say is not to be crossed as it breaks their trust.
Manipulation is being used as a tool for war. Manipulation is not a physical object, which makes it even harder to talk about.
Manipulation is tricky though, because any time we become aware we are being manipulated, we either blow it off or we become offended. Rarely does manipulation work to the point where you can state you support it.
When you talk about manipulation, you are talking about how people abuse it. It's hard to attack manipulation when the focus should be the offenders themselves. I don't intend on watching the video about corporations, but I'll leave you a message on your profile if and when i get to watching Zeitgeist.
"can help" does not actually mean can... it means "could"...
I believe "can" may also present one's ability to acheive, rather than the fact that it will succeed. It's an iffy word, but I know what you mean.
Here's an example you'll dig. I heard someone ranting about honey and how one product stated that their brand of honey is fat free. Why did this claim cause such a stir? It's because all honey is fat free. That's the kind of manipulation you are talking about.
It's horrible, and people are suckered into these kinds of traps. I believe the fairest way to combat such manipulation should be through being informative. Let's look at movies, there are plenty of sources that rate movies so you know which ones are good before you even have to watch them. When it comes to politics, people have their own ideas of what works and does not work. Politics, unlike science, does not have any answers that are clearly observable and agreeable because sooo many things affect each other. There's A LOT of manipulation when it comes to politics, and it's incredibly hard to argue such manipulation. Trust me, I have tried. Manipulation is normal when it comes to romance, and sometimes we must allow ourselves to be manipulated or, play along.
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but manipulation is a tool and it's hard to attack a tool when it's easier to attack the manipulator, because we are all manipulators to some degree. Believe it or not, some people believe manipulation is a part of being a moderator on AG.
This topic is about the new world, and people use manipulation to get what they want. As I said earlier, manipulation has always existed. The only reason there is more manipulation is because we are exposed to more people, products, and programs than ever before. It's inevitable.
I know very little about this scenario, but at one point in time, a king sent thousands of children to their death because he told everyone that only children may enter into the garden of Edan. I'll look into the scenario and talk about it some more later on.
