but realy the point of the creation stories are to show religios truths
god is good, god made the world good, god made made man in his spirtiuall imige
religion and science can live together
I didn't get the impression of God being all that good from those stories. There is nothing indicating the story was talking about just a spiritual image, there is nothing indicating the spirit even exists, the story does not match reality in the least. So we really can't call it truth.
I can buy that it's just a metaphor or just a fictional story, but not truth. Though that does brig up a whole other group of problems for religion that need not be gotten into at this point.
Anyway, science and religion can indeed coexist, but religion has to make far more concessions to science than science does to religion.
I'm not aware of any concessions science needs to make to religion.
I posted facts... bet you didnt read them Mage. God... so many people who are on crack here
Really? Let's see...
look... evolution is a bunch of frickin bull crap. and since zach is a close friend, he read it in a book. its like saying u crap and u got chuck norris or u blow up a Goodyears tire store and get a frickin Ferrari. The Big Bang is bull too like wut i said above. And a cell that split for some reason, its like saying u cut your self in half and WALA!!! I got a girl and a boy. Jesus christ *facepalm*. Its also like saying that you let a virus turn into a frickin dinosaur. Oh lets see if a Flu cell will turn into an elephant. Nothing happens. God.... I could go on but i dont feel like it
I have a tendency and evolution for the 1,000th time is bull crap
why dont we all not believe evolution and end this topic
i understand what your saying. but the thing is this argument could go on for a frickin eternity
Funny how evolutionists dont let up... i could see this going on and on and on
i dont frickin give a crap... einfach. its pretty pointless that you keep replying after i say something. in fact... after i say evolution is crap you'll reply... i just know it
im plenty justifying what i believe. im saying evolution is crap. evolution is crap cuz the big bang never happened and all this evolution bull is getting old. have you even taken zach's evidence into consideration or are you being a stubborn person and not listening to others evidence and making up all this crap "Oh evolution is real bla bla bla."
i got another fact. Evolution is ONLY a THEORY... a THEORY. It aint even a frickin Scientific Law. Oh my god. whats the point of believing a frickin theory. god. most retarded thing i heard in my LIFE
Okay einstein wanna be. did u read my post before yours which u only believe a retarded theory? u believe in a gay theory. how can u prove a theory when it aint a scientific law. u sound like einstein who thinks he's all that. i'd LOVE to see you try to get ALL the people on this planet listen to your bull crap
i wasnt talking about god. i was talking about gay evolution. and god aint an opinion. evolution is just a theory. scientific laws you can trust cuz they've been proven FOR YEARS. Evolution hasnt. which is where it aint real
Exactly... but god IS PERFECT. You see if evolution was real we'd have only like one eye or four ears or one foot. God balanced us perfectly. He gave us 2 eyes for sight. He gave us 2 hands and feet. He gave us one nose. he gave us 2 ears. he gave us everything nessecary. Since you say evolution isnt perfect your disproving it. How stupid. If it aint perfect, then how come we're like this? How come we have everything to survive? If evolution aint perfect, then how come we can talk and type? You just made your self look stupid.
Okay that's every post of yours before I chimed in calling you either a troll or truly an idiot and saying you didn't provide a single fact disproving evolution.
-You stating evolution is bull crap is not fact just your opinion.
-If you are referring to the Big Bang not happening as a "fact". first of this is not fact, this is just your own ignorance. You show no understanding of this theory either. Also even if this theory was disproven it would have absolutely no effect on the theory of evolution.
-Your virus to dinosaur point is also not fact as it's not the process predicted by evolution it's not an instant process but a gradual one, so you wouldn't see a virus turn into a dinosaur.
-zach's "evidence" is nothing more then a fallacy, other's have already covered why.
-The point that "it's only a theory" first of is wrong, as it's also a fact. Second a theory is the highest thing you can have in science as it's an explanation to the given facts at hand. So while this one is actually a fact it does nothing to denounce evolution, but in fact actually elevates it.
-Finally your point about "being perfect" with two eyes and the like. Again not a fact, but your opinion and a pretty inaccurate one at that as we have plenty of features that are far from perfect and can be much better explained as the result of evolution, such as our ability to get goose bumps. I would wager you would agree that having things like two eyes and two hands is a benefit to us, seeing as you call it perfection. Though evolution favoring benefits to a species is exactly what we would expect through natural selection. So this doesn't disprove evolution. But if having only one of a very important organ is proof of evolution, then we only have one heart.
So far as I can tell you didn't provide any facts that disprove evolution.
