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pratchu
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If you have heard the story of 2 saudi men travelling on an american plane who got kicked off for speaking arabic then you will think the same as me. Why did they do that? is it just that people are biased about this? also, they were asked to move seats many times till one pulled out his diplomatic pasport. then,they got kicked off.i really dont see why this is happening. it makes no sense to kick off saudi diplomats off a plane because they were speaking arabic. now imagine how i, asa saudi, and many others reacted to this response. next thing you know, you'll be kicked off a plane for wearing a scarf around youre hair(only applies to muslim women)!
I think that this has gone too far. why dont they accept saudi's and muslims as normal people i wouldlike to know?

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Kevin4762
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It is unconstitutional to kick them off the plane. There is no situation, that I know of, that has ever allowed fear to stomp over people's rights of equal protection or freedom of expression, at least, after Reconstruction.

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And I agree with them being kicked off the plan actually, if you make a large percentage of people feel uncomfortable or scared you get kicked out so the business so they company doesn't lose money. The Arabs should've cut their beard and spoke english in an American airline, that's just common sense. Something those Arabs didn't appear to have.


If you actually knew anything, that would be discrimination. You just classified yourself as racist. What if you went to a foreign country and did not comply with a country's customs? Would you want to be kicked out of a restaurant, a hotel, or a plane?

Man idiots shouldn't post.


Yeah, they shouldn't, panzer.

I've been corrected that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. The answer can be answered in three numbers: 9/11


It doesn't matter. Fear does not outweigh an individual's rights.

People are afraid that anyone that looks like they were from the middle east are terrorists. That's why they aren't accepted obviously.


There are Mexicans that look Middle Eastern. Should we be afraid of them?

Rediculous. Just plain rediculous, when has America ever been judged on freedom? And not being corrupt, biast, rascist, war mongers, arrogant, ignorant, and greedy, etc...


Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Those words define freedom, and they are clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence.

Strange. I thought that started when they strapped on bombs to themselves and started screaming and running into buildings blowing things up, including themselves.


Should we be afraid of white people, because they commit more crimes than any other race in the United States, and have murdered more people than Middle Easterners in the United States. I can easily bring up statistics to prove it, if you want me to.

All the plane hijackers in history got past security, so it doesn't mean that if you pass security you shouldn't be watched and that you mean no harm. And if the people are Middle Eastern looking, I'd take a special discreet interest into watching them.


They shouldn't be. Why should one group be under surveillance more than another group when all people are equal under the law? If a white man bombs a plane, does he deserve a smaller sentence than a Middle Eastern man who bombed a plane?

I agree with hat


Who's hat? Anyway, the don't make sense. If I grow a beard, get some colour, and then learn Arabic, does that mean I should be isolated? Does that isolation make sense when I am law abiding, just like everyone else in that plane?

Well said


I would rather die than to stomp over a man's rights and oppress him just because he looks different.

first of all, mountains arent seven miles in the air.and planes fly much higher than that.
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He's not talking about mountains Einstein. He's talking about the world trade centers. And planes don't fly higher than a few miles in the air when their landing or going to slam into a building.
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Mountains are several miles high. Mount Everest is almost six miles above sea level. Planes only fly about four miles above earth. He was right. He was also talking about mountains. He explicitly said mountains.

Oh I think it's fair to be like that and I doubt the chances are 5 to 6.3 billion. Where do you get your figures?


Well, let's see. How many people are there on Earth? 6.3 billion. How many people bombed the Twin Towers? No more than 10 people. I can give you links, but I think it is pretty self explanatory.

I agree


The Bush Administration has all poisoned your minds. Only a handful of people bombed the World Trade Center. More Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor than Middle Easterners bombed WTC.

Come to think of it, there was only one time when people's rights were stomped over after Reconstruction, but for a much better reason.
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The American airplane security has just reached a new level of stupidity. First we start patting people down and using nude scanners, then we kick people off for looking a little different and speaking their own language? Pathetic. People are so paranoid, it's breaching new levels of ridiculousness. This is a violation of basic rights and even if someone is scaring the other passengers for having a beard and a tan, that's no reason to kick them off the plane.

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The American airplane security has just reached a new level of stupidity. First we start patting people down and using nude scanners, then we kick people off for looking a little different and speaking their own language? Pathetic. People are so paranoid, it's breaching new levels of ridiculousness. This is a violation of basic rights and even if someone is scaring the other passengers for having a beard and a tan, that's no reason to kick them off the plane.


This is the best post in the thread. Also, we have only been attacked one time. Less people would've died if we hadn't started a war on "terrorism." I think we fail at warring figurative things such as drugs, terrorism, and communism.
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This is the best post in the thread. Also, we have only been attacked one time. Less people would've died if we hadn't started a war on "terrorism." I think we fail at warring figurative things such as drugs, terrorism, and communism.

Indeed!
Perhaps it would be best if we just came right out and started a war against Imaginationland. Just watch out for the Christmas critters...
Thanks, though.
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First we start patting people down and using nude scanners, then we kick people off for looking a little different and speaking their own language? Pathetic.


well said. just some time ago, i was leaving england and they got me and my mom to go to the nude scanner. and we had to because the diplomatic police couldn't help us. this just shows people are getting more paranoid than ever before!
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and the fact they thought my bag had a knife or something. i only had some clothes and books!

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anyone with sence would agree with me in theses sentences i shall type:

ARABS HAVE RIGHTS TOO.THEY ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE DO NOT CONDEMN A WHOLE RELIGION AND RACE.

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They should kick americans for speaking english and eating hamburger and we will see what happens next

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if you got on a plane and there were arabs with big beards speaking arabic right in front of you, i guarantee you would be a little scared


I wouldn't as i am half-muslim. honestly, i would just keep on staring out the window.
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I wouldn't as i am half-muslim. honestly, i would just keep on staring out the window.


...How can you be half of a religion? Wouldn't that pretty much make you some form of deist?

They should kick americans for speaking english and eating hamburger and we will see what happens next


In what country? If it was one that we are currently terrorizing, that is a likely outcome. If it is one we are at war with, probably a similar form of shunning would be implemented.

ARABS HAVE RIGHTS TOO.THEY ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE DO NOT CONDEMN A WHOLE RELIGION AND RACE.


At what point in time was riding a plane a right? I always thought it was more of a privilege.

This is the best post in the thread. Also, we have only been attacked one time. Less people would've died if we hadn't started a war on "terrorism." I think we fail at warring figurative things such as drugs, terrorism, and communism.


This thread isn't about the war, last I checked it was about "Saudi's kicked off plane". So we have been attacked once, but several other terrorist actions have been committed, and a decent amount of them by Muslim extremist. On a thread a while back, I calculated about 3/4 the terrorist attacks on America were committed by Muslim extremist. The other 1/4 were by Christian terrorist. So, statistically, it is more likely for a Muslim to be a terrorist. Though, of course, showing a diplomatic card should dispel any fears of terrorism, it was, once again, probably the passenger's complaining rather than the company itself. The company, for the larger some of money that could be achieved from the other passengers, then probably kicked them out do to the complaints, with little if any "Those guys look Arab, kick them out!" from the company itself.
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If you got on a plane and there were arabs with big beards speaking arabic right in front of you, i guarantee you would be a little scared


I wouldn't as i am half-muslim. honestly, i would just keep on staring out the window.


well said starcraftfan123. i would do thesame. but seriously, i am muslim and am wondering how can you be half muslim?
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I wouldn't as i am half-muslim. honestly, i would just keep on staring out the window.

muslim =/= arab

Also, we have only been attacked one time.

really? on september 11 we got attacked THREE times... almost 4

Less people would've died if we hadn't started a war on "terrorism."

really? if we hadn't invaded afghanistan Al Qaeda wouldnt have kept training more and more terrorists? you really think we wouldnt have had more attacks on the united states??
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really? if we hadn't invaded afghanistan Al Qaeda wouldnt have kept training more and more terrorists? you really think we wouldnt have had more attacks on the united states??


if u hadnt gone to afganistan or even on the crusades, none of this would have happened
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if u hadnt gone to afganistan or even on the crusades, none of this would have happened


...Since when was America involved in the crusades? This is America, not England. And how are supposed to control what happened in Afghanistan? Use our time machine to go back thirty years?
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