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SupaLegit
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Well, I was searching to see if this was already made, but the searches didn't show a thread with my idea so here it is. I am making this thread so we can have a typical tavern discussion thread for all things science! Basically, a thread for everything science! Ranging from discussions about laws and theories, scientific debate, breakthroughs, discussion about new scientific breakthroughs, certain scientists/philosophers, and all that good stuff!
So go out there and let out your inner science! ;P
To get us going somewhere I'll start: what do you think the future holds for technology? I think our knowledge will allow us to overcome the obstacles thrown at us in the future, I mean, we have discovered so much and have come so far!

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dair5
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Wait, so we can't find the center because first we need to the edge, and there isn't one since it's always getting bigger. Right?

Dragonblaze052
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Well, that would be like saying the universe was 2D before the big bang. It would have been, would a single point be 1D or would it be nondimensional?

dair5
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Well i mean keeping in mind it is still 3D. so from that point everything expands but we can't ever find the point because we don't know where we are exactly. or at least where we are compared to the center of the universe.

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Well, I see the universe as being an ever growing whirlpool filled with more whirlpools filled with whirlpools filled with even more whirlpools, and that's not even taking into account quazars, nebulii nor any other miscellanious bodies. There is a center but it is increadibly hard to discern due to the nature of all of the spirals.

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Well, that would be like saying the universe was 2D before the big bang. It would have been, would a single point be 1D or would it be nondimensional?


In the state of a singularity there was no space. Also the third dimension may actually be an emergent property of the first two.

Well i mean keeping in mind it is still 3D. so from that point everything expands but we can't ever find the point because we don't know where we are exactly. or at least where we are compared to the center of the universe.


We can't find that point because it's everywhere. The Big Bang wasn't an explosion where everything spread out from a point. It was everything expanding from a point. Since we are on the surface of that expansion there is no point in the universe where we can point to as that point of expansion is the universe.
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Well, I see the universe as being an ever growing whirlpool filled with more whirlpools filled with whirlpools filled with even more whirlpools, and that's not even taking into account quazars, nebulii nor any other miscellanious bodies. There is a center but it is increadibly hard to discern due to the nature of all of the spirals.


That's not what the universe is like.
Dragonblaze052
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That is just how I would explain it to somebody that had no knowledge what so ever of what the universe looked like.

MageGrayWolf
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I'd just show them a picture.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/MageGrayWolf/map472.jpg
What we see here is the cosmic microwave background radiation from the Big Bang.

Dragonblaze052
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That would probably just confuse them.

MageGrayWolf
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That would probably just confuse them.


Perhaps but they way you describe it isn't accurate.
dair5
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OH. i get it. so the big bang was like an extreamly dense point that expanded right? So if you went in a direction at lightspeed towards the point where it expanded from, you wouldn't be on the surface anymore right. because eventally you would be inside. like the inside of a ballon.

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Granted, but it's better to kind of know a somewhat inacurrate explaination than to not understand the truth at all. People need simple explainations for most stuff because the general populace isn't as smart as you or me. Most people don't even know how to read the doppler weather.

SupaLegit
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Granted, but it's better to kind of know a somewhat inacurrate explaination than to not understand the truth at all. People need simple explainations for most stuff because the general populace isn't as smart as you or me. Most people don't even know how to read the doppler weather.

But we are going to lie about it? Yes let us describe it in a moronic-friendly way. However, let us at least make it realistic as to how it really is?
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Well, how would you define and explain the universe to an astrologic noob?

SupaLegit
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Big, dark, barren sky constantly expanding. Big huge rocks and hot-hot balls of fire run around. Honestly, I would say that to a complete noob.

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