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SupaLegit
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Well, I was searching to see if this was already made, but the searches didn't show a thread with my idea so here it is. I am making this thread so we can have a typical tavern discussion thread for all things science! Basically, a thread for everything science! Ranging from discussions about laws and theories, scientific debate, breakthroughs, discussion about new scientific breakthroughs, certain scientists/philosophers, and all that good stuff!
So go out there and let out your inner science! ;P
To get us going somewhere I'll start: what do you think the future holds for technology? I think our knowledge will allow us to overcome the obstacles thrown at us in the future, I mean, we have discovered so much and have come so far!

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SupaLegit
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I agree with you here. It also bugs me that people immediately assume that Earth's life forms are the basis for life rules. Who knows? Creatures from other planets could completely contradict the laws for life that we have here on earth.

Meh, some if not a lot would likely be the same. Carbon based life is very likely, as it is that carbon based has best chance for life success. Also, as Mage has said a few pages back, we have found amino acids in space, this screams *likely carbon based*. Though we will not know for sure. Now, for cell structure it would make sense for the structure to be similar to the structures here on Earth. Though they may be altered in some way shape or form. As for how the Ecosystem would work, how plants work, how animals work: this is likely to be VERY diverse and different. To us, the creatures if there are any, will look very deformed, but to them that is just how he and his brethren are. All it takes is a different combination in your DNA. If this planet were to be lacking sunlight, plants might adapt and not use photosynthesis.


that's a good idea. why waste resources to make stem cells, when people are litteraly throwing them away. at least the lives of the babies will help make others lives better. it's almost like a noble sacrifice.

That is what I see as well. As for the sacrifice, it is sad indeed that we throw out life... Using that life to save a life almost balances the inhumane scale.
TackyCrazyTNT
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It is a noble sacrifice. However, some people might not see it that way. That's why there are still debates over abortion and stem cell research.

SupaLegit
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That's why there are still debates over abortion and stem cell research.

It's just flat wrong to throw away life. If this were to sadly continue, then that is where my idea comes in.
Please note as I have already said, this is not the only means as to get stem cells... We have them, it's a matter of finding them {(like in the fat) and that they aren't as abundant as in the early stages}. Imagine it now, all that fat and blood thrown out. But that fat has worthy cells in it!!! We are disposing of that like it's nothing.
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When I say alien life is completely different from us, I get attacked. TNT says it and nothing...

I have actually seen UFOs on two occasions.

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Really when? what did they look like?

TackyCrazyTNT
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When I say alien life is completely different from us, I get attacked. TNT says it and nothing...


That's because I'm special. And also, because I'm not TNT. I'm Tacky. Seriously, guys.

I have actually seen UFOs on two occasions.


I apologize if I don't believe you. It's not that I don't think they're out there (of which I'm skeptical), but it's that a lot of people see things. I once thought I saw a ghost. I was adamant it was a ghost. Then I realized it was a large pile of white rocks.
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First one about four years ago. It was teardrop shaped and moved at the same pace as the car for a while then accelerated like all hell out of view at a parabolic arc upwards.

The second one was late at night 2 years, 3 months and 28 days ago (New Years Eve, 2008, my 16th birthday). It was indistinctly shaped and had a red light on the bottom. It flew in a straight line and I watched it thinking it was a plane. After a second, it jerked to the side quickly, jerked 45* back going even faster and started jerking in random directions getting much faster very quickly before shooting off and disappearing. Before you say I was drunk, seeing things or on something, I had another very reliable witness about a quater mile away see the same thing and ask me if I saw it.

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Honestly, the only thing that conflicts with stem cell research is religion. That's because religion believes in some sort of afterlife. If you were to look at it as you are only what you remember, then a fetus is not yet a person, as it has no memories. (At least...I don't think they do? I've never heard of fetal memories...probably depends on how far along it is in development)

If there's going to be abortions, why NOT use them? I don't see why a women couldn't choose whether or not to have a baby, that's an entirely life changing decision, and contraceptives (Which are also against religious morals aren't they?) don't always work, or can be misused.

I apologize if I don't believe you. It's not that I don't think they're out there (of which I'm skeptical), but it's that a lot of people see things. I once thought I saw a ghost. I was adamant it was a ghost. Then I realized it was a large pile of white rocks.


The difference is, you realized that it was a pile of rocks, and didn't go into something like, "It WAS a ghost! It's just disguised as rocks now!"

As for alien life in general...I have no idea. We know for a fact that there can be carbon based life but do not know whether there can be any other element based life. I would assume that all carbon-based life forms would function in similar ways, and evolve in similar ways too. Also, there's so many different tracks on evolution that are shaped by chance, natural disasters, climate change, evolution of that species predators, disease...it could have turned out drastically different on earth if even a few things were changed.
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It's simple math, to think we are the sole life supporting planet out of 5 sextillion stars is a bit egocentric.

What about the Fermi Paradox?
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When did so many people get interested in this thread? It started out with about four or five of us then eventually narrowed to Mage, SL and me. Now, there are too many of us.

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To not harvest stem cells would be like not doing organ donation of a cadaver.

EXACTLY! That is why it must become common procedure if abortion continues (which most likely will).

When did so many people get interested in this thread? It started out with about four or five of us then eventually narrowed to Mage, SL and me. Now, there are too many of us.

seriously, but with more peeps, more points brought up and debate... So it is a good thing ^^
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As was said in the This Thread is Currently About: thread, post quality is inverse to post quantity.

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Oh it's fine, but the traveling into the future is possible, just not as you'd expect. No time machine, just speeds near light speed; time dilation.


Going back to what I was saying about how to travel to other planets, this form of time travel would be easier to do then that.

To us, the creatures if there are any, will look very deformed, but to them that is just how he and his brethren are. All it takes is a different combination in your DNA. If this planet were to be lacking sunlight, plants might adapt and not use photosynthesis.


There are many factors that can determine the look of animals. A major one would actually be gravity. Or the atmosphere can also play a roll.
For example if we came across a planet with lower gravity and higher oxygen then we could find insect like creatures the size of dinosaurs. Flight would also be much easier on such a planet, so we could see creatures that couldn't possibly fly around on Earth flying about.
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I doubt the bugs wound be the size of a dinosaur but they would be g**** size.

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No time machine, just speeds near light speed; time dilation.


As mass comes closer to light speed some of the energy is converted to mass. Therefore reaching light speed would result in infinite mass and infinite energy even coming close is unfeasible.

It seems people are making a lot of assumptions that life on another planet would be similar to ours. Other lifeforms might not even be carbon based therefore radically different. We know relatively little on how life has formed or how it would form on a different planet. Other lifeforms might be silicon based or other suitable elements.
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