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SupaLegit
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Well, I was searching to see if this was already made, but the searches didn't show a thread with my idea so here it is. I am making this thread so we can have a typical tavern discussion thread for all things science! Basically, a thread for everything science! Ranging from discussions about laws and theories, scientific debate, breakthroughs, discussion about new scientific breakthroughs, certain scientists/philosophers, and all that good stuff!
So go out there and let out your inner science! ;P
To get us going somewhere I'll start: what do you think the future holds for technology? I think our knowledge will allow us to overcome the obstacles thrown at us in the future, I mean, we have discovered so much and have come so far!

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SupaLegit
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Coincidentally, geneticists say it would be incredibly easy to change a couple of genes to make a chicken a midget raptor.

I believe the chicken is a descendant to the T-Rex as well.

I know alot of dinosaurs (which might not be that many) are small, but when you say dinosaur, most people think of a giant lizard looking thing, not a scaly chicken with a tail and claws.

Of course, but there still are a majority of small dinos.
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Let's say the dinosaur we are comparing the bugs to is 15-40 feet. That's one damm big bug!

SupaLegit
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Let's say the dinosaur we are comparing the bugs to is 15-40 feet. That's one damm big bug!

Yeah, but not unrealistic. Just needs the right habitat and climate. Besides, some place in the Middle East there is thus huge like 4ft spider. Just give that a habitat perfect for it, and see that it is the top predator. What might happen to the species?
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Well, it isn't really a spider but I know what you're talking about.

What would be some effective anatomies and adaptations for this world of giant bugs? Assume all living species are insects, arachnids are a similar life form and the plant life can be of any form you wish, just specify what the plant is like if you mention one.

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What would be some effective anatomies and adaptations for this world of giant bugs? Assume all living species are insects, arachnids are a similar life form and the plant life can be of any form you wish, just specify what the plant is like if you mention one.

Anatomies: Why not be same/similar just large scaled? I'm not an insect anatomist X.x...
Adaptations: The predators be fast (for their size), some sort of sound/language used between all/most species would be insanely beneficial (but unlikely). For the prey: camouflage and toxins.
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But would the same thing be likely? We already stated that they would probably need a different exoskeleton, they would also likely need a different wing structure.

Actually, most swarming insects, like grasshoppers, have a rudimentary language and many communal insects have a significantly developed language based on body movements (bees) or chemical signatures (ants).

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yeah but if they had luanguge like people do they would probably be the dominant species. Cockroachs can already withstand more radiation, G's, and can work together pretty effectivly. For humans, our brains are the only things that keep us dominant. so if bugs had our brain power they would most likly be domininant because they can adapt, evolve, and use the enviornment to their advantage.

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yeah but if they had luanguge like people do they would probably be the dominant species.
Yay, someone got what I meant. And sorry I hadn't replied Dragon, I was busy ;(

For humans, our brains are the only things that keep us dominant. so if bugs had our brain power they would most likly be domininant because they can adapt, evolve, and use the enviornment to their advantage.

Yes, my exact views when I made the post ^^
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Finally, revived!!!!!
Bugs adapt well because, as was stated earlier, they (if I remember) are all K Species, fast reproducing and resultantly fast evolving.

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Sorry, they are r species, not K species.

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Bugs adapt well because, as was stated earlier, they (if I remember) are all K Species, fast reproducing and resultantly fast evolving.

As you corrected, R. But give them a brain like ours... Now what?
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Well, it all depends on how it pans out. If it was a beetle species gifted with the human mind, not much would change on alarge scale. If it was ants, they might start ambushing and eating humans alive. What species are we giving this gift?

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Well, it all depends on how it pans out. If it was a beetle species gifted with the human mind, not much would change on alarge scale. If it was ants, they might start ambushing and eating humans alive. What species are we giving this gift?

I'd say ants, and not just for your reasoning... Or is it? Naw, they would make the most difference in my opinion.
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I'd say that given the course of human history, they would begin to expand their Matridom not deeper as the ant mind would reason, but outwards as a human would. This would result in an increased area of rule as well as a slight shirt to the K end of the spectrum with the increased population to maximum sustainable population ratio. Despite the wider area covered by the mounds, they would still extend a fair distance underneath the ground for sake of the queen and larvae. If the mound extended far enough, the ants might adapt a new subrace form equivalent to a feudal lord as the queens' reaches would not be infinite. To support the growing masses, scavaging and hunting small creatures would no longer be sufficient. They would begin attacking larger animals, not as a form of defense as they do now, but actively hunting us. This would cause a mass panic in the human communities as the fear of an ant take over looms over them. The ant armies would steadily grow in numbers, possibly size aswell, as they gain ground. The ants would either engage in massive wars as they met or form deadly alliances. As humans declared a war on ants, they may cease fighting if they had chosen that path and dig deeper. If they were clever enough, they would collapse our buildings, possibly going as far as to tame termites as war machines. As humanity was overtaken, ants would grow too high in numbers and be forced to devour their former allies. Devoid of plant life, the surface world would suffer mass extinctions and life would be stranded at sea until the ants were extinct and it was safe to evolve to life on land yet again. I was actually serious writing this.

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they theorized that, if ants had nukes, the world would be destroyed in a matter of hours given their tendency to fight.

Then they shall dominate our insect planet, with their new-found brains... Just no nukes, that doesn't seen right...
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