It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.
We are all born innocent with no thought of religon. And even if there was no religon and we just went into oblivion after death then why not just make your life worthy enough for you to be satisfied. besides even if you die you can't really disappear if people still have memories and knowledge of your existence.
Squidbears- I believe this is the only way many people can validate their existence. No matter what people's god do they need a reason to live and take steps forward otherwise people would just seep in despair.
Squidbears- I believe this is the only way many people can validate their existence. No matter what people's god do they need a reason to live and take steps forward otherwise people would just seep in despair.
You can find reason to live without bowing to a sadistic vengeful being. Even if one needs to believe in such flights of fancy as a deity to find meaning in their life, why pick one that has to be constantly justified and excuses away?
Never does it make sense MageGrayWolf... Never... :<
I would put out an argument but I think Mage already done it all for me. Eventually this thread is going to die out from a lack of religious people going up against Thread-Champion MageGrayWolf.
Or may be Evolution doesn't exist? I'm only using your logic.
If the statement that God and evolution can't co-exist is true and evolution is a fact then by those standards God can't exist.
Actually, without God, none of us would exist, because there would be no creator.
Don't need a creator for life to form, just the correct chemicals in the right environment. But the origin of life (abiogenesis) has nothing to do with the changes it underwent once it did exist (evolution).
So anybody who doesn't live with there parents has not rules to follow, nor do they have to follow rules?
They just don't have their parents rules, unless they want to keep following those rules, but if they decide not to they won't have their parents punishing them for it.
My mother tells me not to stand in the interstate during rush-hour traffic. I choose not to obey her, and the consequences of my action is me getting hit by a car. So, in a sense, I AM punished for not obeying my mother's advice.
Just because advice makes sense doesn't mean it had to come from your parents.
Man is born dead in sin, and is an evil creature. So yes, you, me, and all other humans are wicked and deserve to die.
Still wonder why I find this religion to be sick?! Infant deserve death for just being human, a condition that GOD set up in the first place! Not to mention they are being condemned for an action they didn't even do themselves. These standards being put forth are completely sick and twisted. I honestly have a hard time believing you actually look at an infant and thing "OHH, what a wicked evil creature! Look at those cute little cheeks!"
Not to mention how this fits perfectly with Batter wife syndrome "I'm worthless and deserved that beating", "It was my fault he got mad and hit me", "you, me, and all other humans are wicked and deserve to die". Notice any similarities in these statements?
God's love and mercy has saved us from his justice (and everlasting torment in Hell),
He's saving us form his actions and the situation he set up in the first place? That hardly sounds like love to me? And an eternal punishment doesn't sound like mercy or justice.
through the birth, crucifixiatiion, death, and ascension of his Son, Jesus Christ.
What God in all his omnipotent glory couldn't just say "your forgiven" he had to have his human blood sacrifice? And even after this we still have to say sorry and consider ourselves vile even after being forgiven? I got a few choice words for all this but they would all just end up looking like this ****.
There are three main variants of Mitochondrial DNA in humans. Coencidentally, Noah had three daughters...
This only shows the every basic concepts of such a process, there is much more to it.
3 and 4 is essentially describing evolution. So you're saying that "Evolution happens, because Evolution happens." Circular Reasoning, anybody?
3 describes natural selection the process that drives evolution. while 4 brings up the direct observation of evolution through natural selection in progress.
So it's saying evolution happens through natural selection and we observe it happening.
Again, you claim facts as if they grew on trees. But you have yet to show me any facts. It you're unwilling to back up your claims, than you should leave the thread.
Okay I'm getting tired of this level of ignorance. Would a reference thread for evolution be of benefit or should I make one on the basic scientific method instead? Each one is going to take different research and fact checking and compiling into something coherent. What do you guys think would be of more use?
when you say basic scientific method, would you explain theories,laws, etc? because i think that'd help a lot.. you could always stick evolution in there somewhere too
There are three main variants of Mitochondrial DNA in humans. Coencidentally, Noah had three daughters...
yup, i get you point, but since the bible is kinda newer than the separation of the human DNA variants, so it's more likely that since there were 3 main human kinds, they invented the story of the three sons. also, a DNA variation is quite a long story, so it's also unlikely that the three sons had enough time to have a relevant DNA change. not to mention that you're trying to prove god by using evolutionary concepts, aka absolute nonsense. you prove a statement with some arguments, and then you notice than your arguments go against your original statement. lol.
