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PracticalManiac
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It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.

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TackyCrazyTNT
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That's true, but people always want something to believe in, and sometimes politicians don't do the trick.
And part of the reason I am slightly against religion are all the wars waged because of it.

MageGrayWolf
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That's true, but people always want something to believe in,


I prefer to believe in facts, I can see those for myself.
TackyCrazyTNT
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I'm actually atheist myself, but I don't like hating on the religious people because my friends are basically all religious.
Facts are facts, that's true, but sometimes that's not enough for some people. :P

Kasic
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I'm actually atheist myself, but I don't like hating on the religious people because my friends are basically all religious.


I don't know about anyone else, but I don't hate religious people. I just want to understand why they believe, but I never get a straight answer. Tends to be a little frustrating. (I think most feel the same)

Facts are facts, that's true, but sometimes that's not enough for some people. :P


Alright, fair enough, I guess some people need their blanky and/or passy...
MageGrayWolf
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I don't know about anyone else, but I don't hate religious people. I just want to understand why they believe, but I never get a straight answer. Tends to be a little frustrating. (I think most feel the same)


That's because often there isn't a straight answer.
Stormtrooper1
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I am a Christian, and if you do believe in Atheism, then you more than likely belive in evolution, but it is flawed completely, just plz come to God you will be happier.

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It will be hard sometimes, but end product is happiness, e.g. afterlife.

Kasic
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I am a Christian, and if you do believe in Atheism, then you more than likely belive in evolution,


See, here's the thing. You don't believe in Atheism. Also, believing in evolution is like beliving that cereal exists. It's pretty much entirely proven.

It will be hard sometimes, but end product is happiness, e.g. afterlife.


How do you know?
Stormtrooper1
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Because I have faith, and how can you prove evolution its mapped out but on such shaky grounds, you should try listening to Kent Hovind sometimes, he will elaborate.

Kasic
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And thus my point is proven.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't hate religious people. I just want to understand why they believe, but I never get a straight answer. Tends to be a little frustrating. (I think most feel the same)


Because I have faith, and how can you prove evolution its mapped out but on such shaky grounds, you should try listening to Kent Hovind sometimes, he will elaborate.


If you think it's mapped on shaky grounds, you know absolutely nothing about it. There's probably more information out there about it done by thousands of different scientists, more than you could read in your lifetime, all of which confirms and supports the theory of evolution. Just page back in this thread a bit and you'll find one of Mage's 20 source posts of videos, links, articles, and research papers.
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Here's my little tidbit on the whole thing...

I find the notion of an afterlife a bit far-fetched.

Now, don't get me wrong, the idea that after we shed this mortal coil, our souls head into some huge tunnel of light and we end up in Cloud City,(sans Lando), where we get to high-five everyone we ever knew on our way to some huge, eternal pep rally, complete with Mayor McJesus and naked, white oompaloompas forever and ever amen, is a wonderful concept. However, somehow I just find it a bit on the laced brownie side of things, if you get my meaning. It's almost too happy an ending, (except for the pep rally thing...I hate pep rallys.)

Not that I find the alternative any more believable. The whole burning forever in a river of fire, wailing and gnashing my teeth while some big guy with a pitchfork and a bad tan laughs at me as my flesh melts for all eternity thing sounds like it came from the same plate of brownies, but laced with something a bit stronger.

My thoughts on the concept of an afterlife are quite simple. People don't want to imagine that, after slaving their entire lives to make a living, only to shrivel up and turn into so much fertilizer just seems...unfair. I think that the afterlife thing exists to give everyone the promise of some great reward, like the whole team getting a trophy in little league even though you all completely blew it, or gold stars on the forehead of everyone in class, regardless of how lousy you did on the test. The promise of eternal life helps people deal with the great snuffing, the huge farm purchase, that well-placed kick to the bucket. It allows people to deal with their greatest fear: that we don't know if there's a little man behind the green curtain.

Now, before anyone starts planting scripture references on my profile, let me say that I cannot exactly say that I don't believe in some sort of great mover. I mean, I suppose it's possible that there was some girl/guy/thing that started the ball rolling. It's just as possible as a random cosmic kaboomy, I gather.

However, I'm not as convinced that Miss/Mister Mover, or their offspring for that matter, is helping Ms. Brown win the lottery any more than M/M/M allowed a huge earthquake to nearly decimate a heavily populated island, while nearly causing a nuclear meltdown, after nearly drowning it in a gigantic wave of liquid death.

In other words, I believe that She/He/It, if they do exist, merely set things in motion, using the laws of physics, then went out for a gallon of milk and never came back. I really cannot subscribe to much more than that.

I believe that, ultimately, we are the masters of our own destinys. Life is a string of good luck/bad luck scenarios that we find ourselves dealing with. Whether the outcome of those scenarios is good or bad, I'm not sure that M/M/M, or naked, white oompaloompas for that matter, have much to do with it.

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Because I have faith, and how can you prove evolution its mapped out but on such shaky grounds, you should try listening to Kent Hovind sometimes, he will elaborate.

I find it ironic that whenever someone says this on this topic I often lose faith in humanity.

You are a flawed creation, how about that?

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MageGrayWolf
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Because I have faith, and how can you prove evolution its mapped out but on such shaky grounds, you should try listening to Kent Hovind sometimes, he will elaborate.


With some things all you can do is LOL.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/MageGrayWolf/kenthovind.jpg
Highfire
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Mage. I thought I was meant to provide comic relief? :<

And then you beat me at that as well.
:<

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PracticalManiac
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just plz come to God you will be happier


I have been a lot happier without god. so nyah >:P

Because I have faith, and how can you prove evolution its mapped out but on such shaky grounds


El oh el, you talk about shaky grounds and then you base your beliefs on faith, I think that's called a contradiction?
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