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PracticalManiac
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It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.

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shinobody
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For God's sake, this arguement is silly. Bible contardicts itself, because it was written on space of... whow... few thousand years? (Counting time when it was passed by speech...) by different authors. Theists believe, that all were inspired by God. Atheists believe they were not. That's all.

dair5
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You can't base an entire history on it's worse part. It's like saying i can hate all americans because they used to have slavery. Please be a little more open minded about the current religous values being taught. And as long as we're quoting,

Revelation 21:1-4
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away ... I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God ... And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." (NIV)

shinobody
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Mindless catatonic ecstasy *perfectly* matches this description... :/

ZipperedVenus42
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You can't base an entire history on it's worse part.

Another contrradiction! If the Bible was written through God's words, then there wouldn't be a "worst part".
dair5
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It has to be in a bad way? Why is it so hard to belive just mabye it could be a good thing.

314d1
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You can't base an entire history on it's worse part.


And what would you consider it's best part? Playing a large part in the prohibition, creating the Mafia? Inspiring Hitler? Arresting scientists who went against the ideals of the church? Denying equal privilege to pretty much every race, homosexuals, and other religions? You must be so proud. Or is it the killings of millions that is your biggest achievement?

Revelation 21:1-4
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away ... I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God ... And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." (NIV)


Wow. You do realize that is because everyone else on earth was killed in revelations, correct? All atheists, Hindus, Muslims, etc all died, everyone Yahweh doesn't like was killed painfully. How is that good at all?
dair5
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Another contrradiction! If the Bible was written through God's words, then there wouldn't be a "worst part".


Sorry if I was unclear. I meant the crusdes, salem witch trials, ect...
314d1
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Want the verses? Here is the end of Revelations 20...

20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

ZipperedVenus42
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It has to be in a bad way?

I think that you are confusing the terms "bad" and "un-biased". Science isn't "bad", it is un-biased.
dair5
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Well could someone explain to me what is so great about athesim? Not that it's the truth because there is as much proof for it as anything else. What's so great in beliving that after you die there is nothing. You are nothing. just dirt. and no mind to continue on.

ZipperedVenus42
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20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[sarcasm]Gee, talk about forgiveness![/sarcasm]
MageGrayWolf
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You can't base an entire history on it's worse part. It's like saying i can hate all americans because they used to have slavery.


Interestingly enough the Bible was often used to justify slavery.
dair5
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I think that you are confusing the terms "bad" and "un-biased". Science isn't "bad", it is un-biased.


What? no. I'm a big fan of science and my religon. It's not like science compleatly disproves it. Everything happens because of energy right? Well by praising an almighty spirt,(energy) the world is conrolled right. I just don't see why i can't call my energy an almighty spirt.

Interestingly enough the Bible was often used to justify slavery.


True. Sad but true.

Want the verses? Here is the end of Revelations 20...


Yes and there are worse. But it seems to me you just hate my religon. And if you do i can't blame you, there are plenty of reasons to. but there is no reason to hate the people.
shinobody
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Look, it is not Christianity responsible for those crimes. Really. World just sucks and it's all that there is. If they had no Bible to justify slavery, they'd think of something other. If whole world would be full of atheists, would it be better? It reminds me Terry Pratchetts "Discworld". In this fantasy world, there is city-state Ankh-Morpork. Once it has been ruled by kings, but they were abolished. Now, they are ruled by single lords, called Patricians. Author humourosly points out, that they aren't much better than older kings, but at least they don't pretend that gods given them rights to rule...

Avorne
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Well yeah, Shino, but if the world was more like the Discworld then the Gods would go around throwing bricks through the windows of Atheists houses...

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