It's funny how your almost never born atheist, you become atheist. I personally think the whole religion thing is far fetched. Why cant we just be dead after we die? Why does there HAVE to be an afterlife? Dont get me wrong i respect others decisions, I just don't believe in it, who's with me? I'm going to be some grass fertilizer one day And home to some maggots + worms.
What? no. I'm a big fan of science and my religon. It's not like science compleatly disproves it. Everything happens because of energy right? Well by praising an almighty spirt,(energy) the world is conrolled right. I just don't see why i can't call my energy an almighty spirt.
Because "spirt" is a poorly spelled jet of water? Because evolution, abiogenisis, and the big bang disprove Genesis? The second is typically why it disproves your god.
Yes and there are worse. But it seems to me you just hate my religon. And if you do i can't blame you, there are plenty of reasons to. but there is no reason to hate the people.
I don't hate people, I hate religion. Religion is used as a reason to hate people.
Well could someone explain to me what is so great about athesim? Not that it's the truth because there is as much proof for it as anything else. What's so great in beliving that after you die there is nothing. You are nothing. just dirt. and no mind to continue on.
You can't prove that something exists when people keep changing what it is. Unless you care to disprove unicorns for me? How about the fact that that is what really happens, not just the wishful dreams of a bronze age goat herder?
Thats really smart shinobody. I need to read that book because it's true. People would kill, start wars, steal and do anything else even without religon. it's just given them an excuse and a reason. but even without it they would find another reason.
Well, nothing can *technically* prove there is nothing after death. There is just rule, Occam's Razor, to come up with simple theories rather than complicated ones... That's basis of most science, and atheism is just applying this viewpoint to cases of faith. If someone firmly believes in logic, it makes sense.
Well what proves that nothing happens after death. And still, whats so great about it!
What is so great about the truth? It is the truth. It is scientific fact. It is reality. Allowing us to accept this fact makes us one step closer to ending death, or at least prolonging our lives. It makes a life actually worth something, rather than just being a pawn of some god somewhere.
Actaully, I'm personally atheist jsut because I believe that forever-lasting life would be pointless. Yes, really. Seems starnge, but when you realize, that "oint" means end, conclusion... Then it makes lot of sense. Eternity scares me. (That's more philosophical version, logics is my second.)
Wait. First the whole prolonged life wouldn't be so good because I don't think everyone would have accses to it. there are people without clean drinking water. And atheism still hasn't been proven true to me yet.
Wait. First the whole prolonged life wouldn't be so good because I don't think everyone would have accses to it.
So, by that logic, computers are not that good because not everyone can access them. Medicine isn't that good because not everyone can access it. The Playboy Mansion isn't that good because not everyone can access it. And, as a final little thing for you as a Christian, Heaven isn't that good because not everyone can access it.
there are people without clean drinking water
And? I don't' see how that effects the usefulness of anything I have said so far. How does religion help these people? By convincing them to jump into a fire with their brothers and a Bible in their hand? Don't hope for rain or thunder, hope for an agronomist.
And atheism still hasn't been proven true to me yet.
Atheism is a lack of belief. It is like taking a stance that unicorns do not exist. And I expect that you will not say "Aunicornism just hasn't been proven true to me yet". You can't prove something doesn't exists if you continue to change what that something is. If you have found a way to, please do so.
I don't see how people who are atheist are better than those who are christian. You stating what you belive to be true is no different then me stating it. And like i said before, the my christianity was taught to me is not the same way you state it's apparently been taught since my religon started.
I don't see how people who are atheist are better than those who are christian.
I don't think anyone ever said Atheists are better than Christians. I do believe though that Atheists (in general) are more rational, and less bigoted and more open than any religious person.
And like i said before, the my christianity was taught to me is not the same way you state it's apparently been taught since my religon started.
Doesn't matter how you were taught, although if it's different than what's in the Bible, then according to your own religion you're being taught wrong and will burn in hell. Read the bible, look at all the atrocities commited by god in it. At any point, that omnipresent god could have stopped it all, or made it not occur in the first place.
I don't see how people who are atheist are better than those who are christian.
Neither do I. Who seems to be saying this?
You stating what you belive to be true is no different then me stating it.
Except I have reason, facts, logic, fossils, physics, and science in general behind me, while you don't.
And like i said before, the my christianity was taught to me is not the same way you state it's apparently been taught since my religon started.
No. You completely ignore every part you don't like. The difference is that the people in the past ignored a little less than you, the people before them a little less, and so on and so forth.
BTW, "rolonged life" already exists. It is called "average lifetime" and statistically, people live much longer in rich country than in poor ones. People who are atheist ARE NOT better tahn THEITS, or vice versa.
As for "roving true", i propose thought experiment... Imagine a planet. Planet (lets assume for this time evolutionism) after enough time of boiling hot chemical reaction, develops some simple life. Life evolves over time, through many, many eons of evolution, at last, one of best fitted evolutionary lines - accidentally (yet were talking about astronomical periods of time)eventually develops some intelligence, and self-conciousness. Creature thinks - why I am? Where I am? Who I am? Different creatures find very many different options, like gods, demons, Force , and randomness. Many involve absurd rituals, like waving your hands, cutting peoples hearts so shine will rise again, or watching skies for flying saucers. Now imagine, outsider's view. Some alien sentient conciousness looks on us, and tries to get a grip on all this. For them, how absurd it would be? TOTALLY NO OFFENSE MEANT. WORDS "ABSURD" were put there for effect, because from *this* point of view it makes sense...
