Forums → WEPR → Wisconsin Protest (2/15-)

94	13843

offline

Krizaz

2,399 posts

Nomad

Posted March 26, '11 1:33am UTC

As a native of Wisconsin, and my father being a state worker, I am very proud of how Wisconsin has acted over the past few weeks.

I have done various essays for school on these protest so I know the gist of it.

What it does
This bill strips nearly all collective baragining rights form state workers.
Wisconsin was the first state to get collective bargaining, by doing this Walker is try to erase Wisconsins proud history.

I'll start form the begging of what I know.

On February 14, University of Madison student walked into the rotunda of the capitol protesting the bill Governor Walker was proposing.

On February 15, Multiple schools practiced walk outs protesting the bill.

On February 17, All 14 Wisconsin senators left, delaying a bill that needs a minimum of 20 senators. This sparked debate among the republican senators, sparking outcries among democratic senators. My opinion is that these senators did their job, by allowing democracy to happen instead of letting Walker jam through a bill destroying Wisconsin families.

From February all the way until March, the protest got bigger, reaching over 100,000 people. The weekend that the Tea-Party came there was actually very little violence if any, no arrest were made even past that point. There were very little Tea-Partiers, and at it;s hight about 2,000 tea partiers to the 65,000+ pro-teachers/union.

Dirty Republicans

The scum of the earth republicans did eventually find a way to pass the non- fiscal part fo the bill, as the senate could have any number of senators to pass a non-fiscal bill. These people held a long secretive session in early March, stripping the fiscal parts of the bill and just passing the non-fiscal parts. Soon after this was passed thousands of protestors angrily took to the streets, pounding on Windows and other such things, I don't believe any arrest were made, but it was a very angry crowd of shocked people.

This act took only seconds to pass with a 18-1 vote, the lone nay was R-Dale Shultz, he earlier stated that he would vote against the bill, this action alone sparked the Dirty Republican party to try to oust him from the party.

The bill was also passed in the senate, but denied in the court by the Dane County judge. The Dirt Republican Party also found a way around this, they basically told the Judge to eff-off by writing a footnote that states the bill has to go in affect in 10 days.

There is much, much more to talk about and if this topic gets going I can say much more.

Fun Facts:
Many celebrities supported Wisconsin protestors.
No ads for Walker were run from inside Wisconsin associations.
David Koch funds Walker, what a ****.
Scott Walker was dropped out of Marquette for cheating.
Walker destroyed Milwaukee's economy and jobs just like he's doing now

Look. Walkers a idiot an if you don't think that, get out of America.

Home it it right for the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer... It makes no sense.

If you live in Wiscosin, get out to recall your Dirty Republican Senator/Assembly leader. [/b]And Scott Walker in 2012![b]

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bSaRyjjZuMg/TWV7QJuQqQI/AAAAAAAAIJA/PQdlPhZLNc8/s1600/scott-walker-dope.gif[/img]\r\nAs a native of Wisconsin, and my father being a state worker, I am very proud of how Wisconsin has acted over the past few weeks.\r\n\r\nI have done various essays for school on these protest so I know the [i]gist[/i] of it.\r\n\r\n[b]What it does[/b]\r\nThis bill strips nearly all collective baragining rights form state workers. \r\nWisconsin was the first state to get collective bargaining, by doing this Walker is try to erase Wisconsins proud history.\r\n[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-angAq-BF-bE/TWfx3lGAepI/AAAAAAAAQRM/X6up0AGL_Ro/s1600/WisconsinProtest-1102.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n\r\n[i]I'll start form the begging of what I know[/i].\r\n\r\nOn February 14, University of Madison student walked into the rotunda of the capitol protesting the bill Governor Walker was proposing.\r\n\r\nOn February 15, Multiple schools practiced walk outs protesting the bill.\r\n\r\nOn February 17, All 14 Wisconsin senators left, delaying a bill that needs a minimum of 20 senators. This sparked debate among the republican senators, sparking outcries among democratic senators. My opinion is that these senators did their job, by allowing democracy to happen instead of letting Walker jam through a bill destroying Wisconsin families.\r\n\r\nFrom February all the way until March, the protest got bigger, reaching over 100,000 people. The weekend that the Tea-Party came there was actually very little violence if any, no arrest were made even past that point. There were very little Tea-Partiers, and at it;s hight about 2,000 tea partiers to the 65,000+ pro-teachers/union.\r\n[img]http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/110313_recent_wisconsin_protest_ap_328.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\n[b]Dirty Republicans[/b]\r\n\r\nThe scum of the earth republicans did eventually find a way to pass the non- fiscal part fo the bill, as the senate could have any number of senators to pass a non-fiscal bill. These people held a long secretive session in early March, stripping the fiscal parts of the bill and just passing the non-fiscal parts. Soon after this was passed thousands of protestors angrily took to the streets, pounding on Windows and other such things, I don't believe any arrest were made, but it was a very angry crowd of shocked people.\r\n\r\nThis act took only seconds to pass with a 18-1 vote, the lone nay was  R-Dale Shultz, he earlier stated that he would vote against the bill, this action alone sparked the Dirty Republican party to try to oust him from the party.\r\n\r\nThe bill was also passed in the senate, but denied in the court by the Dane County judge. The Dirt Republican Party also found a way around this, they basically told the Judge to eff-off by writing a footnote that states the bill has to go in affect in 10 days.\r\n\r\nThere is much, much more to talk about and if this topic gets going I can say much more.\r\n\r\nFun Facts:\r\nMany celebrities supported Wisconsin protestors.\r\nNo ads for Walker were run from inside Wisconsin associations.\r\nDavid Koch funds Walker, what a ****.\r\nScott Walker was dropped out of Marquette for cheating.\r\nWalker destroyed Milwaukee's economy and jobs just like he's doing now\r\n\r\nLook. Walkers a idiot an if you don't think that, get out of America.\r\n\r\n[b]Home it it right for the rich to get richer, and the poor to get poorer... It makes no sense.[/b]\r\n\r\n[i]If you live in Wiscosin, get out to recall your Dirty Republican Senator/Assembly leader.[/i] [/b]And Scott Walker in 2012![b]\r\n\r\n[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXTcrabtkydhHneq1b8-NuzN96qbi0hzNEWURETesV5TUvPuYY&t=1[/img]

94 Replies

offline

Kevin4762

2,420 posts

Nomad

Posted March 28, '11 6:21am UTC

Someone says "Wow, this is horrible." They start a company and sell bread at a fairer price.

That person's company gets bought out.

BINGO.

Me and Einfach do NOT support crooked lobbying. In fact, crooked lobbying exists when you give the government more control. That's the whole point we have been making.

I don't support lobbying either. Lobbying should not exist in Socialism or Libertarianism.

The Jungle is a novel. It isn't a credible source. It was written as a way to encourage socialism.

It is a novel based on credible source but is told in a way that helps the reader understand why Socialism is better than Libertarianism.

But the argument was that businesses were protected by lobbyists. You're acting as if we're supporting lobbying. We don't. In fact, we don't support government intervention because it causes lobbying.

Okay, good.

Lobbying occurs under the guise that the politicians is fighting for your best interest. They will tell you that they are regulating businesses when they are actually helping these big businesses hold an unfair advantage over smaller businesses.

I think we should not allow lobbying, but allow politicians to draft their own bills and make up their own minds to prevent monopolies.

The government should also sue companies that try to form monopolies, like Microsoft or Comcast. Comcast is a television provider, but it owns E!, NBC, and Versus. I think it shouldn't.

Well, the way my macro economics book says, "a system of transactions that encourages the growth of businesses, production of goods, and investments of consumers in the goods, and businesses, they buy from the businesses."

Then it says for free market, "a form of economy where consumers determine the price of goods and choose which businesses to buy from. This form allows the consumer to set the price for goods, due to competition from businesses. The US has a free market economy"

For command economy, "a form of economy where the government controls what the consumers should pay, what businesses they buy from, and what goods they buy. The Soviet Union had a command economy."

Then it goes on to say about other forms of economies.

Anyway, this thread has gone off topic. Either a new thread should be created or an appropriate one should be bumped.

I do, but it usually fades out.

I'll make another Socialism v. Libertarianism thread if you want.

[quote]Someone says "Wow, this is horrible." They start a company and sell bread at a fairer price.[/quote]\r\n\r\nThat person's company gets bought out.\r\n\r\n[quote]BINGO.\r\n\r\nMe and Einfach do NOT support crooked lobbying. In fact, crooked lobbying exists when you give the government more control. That's the whole point we have been making.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI don't support lobbying either. Lobbying should not exist in Socialism or Libertarianism.\r\n\r\n[quote]The Jungle is a novel. It isn't a credible source. It was written as a way to encourage socialism.[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt is a novel based on credible source but is told in a way that helps the reader understand why Socialism is better than Libertarianism.\r\n\r\n[quote]But the argument was that businesses were protected by lobbyists. You're acting as if we're supporting lobbying. We don't. In fact, we don't support government intervention because it causes lobbying.[/quote]\r\n\r\nOkay, good.\r\n\r\n[quote]Lobbying occurs under the guise that the politicians is fighting for your best interest. They will tell you that they are regulating businesses when they are actually helping these big businesses hold an unfair advantage over smaller businesses.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI think we should not allow lobbying, but allow politicians to draft their own bills and make up their own minds to prevent monopolies.\r\n\r\nThe government should also sue companies that try to form monopolies, like Microsoft or Comcast. Comcast is a television provider, but it owns E!, NBC, and Versus. I think it shouldn't.\r\n\r\nWell, the way my macro economics book says, "a system of transactions that encourages the growth of businesses, production of goods, and investments of consumers in the goods, and businesses, they buy from the businesses."\r\n\r\nThen it says for free market, "a form of economy where consumers determine the price of goods and choose which businesses to buy from. This form allows the consumer to set the price for goods, due to competition from businesses. The US has a free market economy"\r\n\r\nFor command economy, "a form of economy where the government controls what the consumers should pay, what businesses they buy from, and what goods they buy. The Soviet Union had a command economy."\r\n\r\nThen it goes on to say about other forms of economies.\r\n[quote]Anyway, this thread has gone off topic. Either a new thread should be created or an appropriate one should be bumped.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI do, but it usually fades out.\r\n\r\nI'll make another Socialism v. Libertarianism thread if you want.

First
3
4
5
6
7

Showing 91-91 of 94

Categories

Quests

Community

Forums → WEPR → Wisconsin Protest (2/15-)