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The government pays for your health care using YOUR money. The government pays for your education using YOUR money.

You created assumptions that the rich will become so powerful that they will take advantage of the poor. You completely ignore competition and assume that all rich people are working together rather than competing with each other. You create a rich vs. poor society that does not exist.

The reason prices for some products are high is because it costs a lot in resources to make those products. Businesses also want to make a profit so they can expand, pay their workers, pay their bills, and give themselves a pay check. If you want to get ahead in business, you offer the best goods at the cheapest prices. This is how prices lower. Politicians do not have the knowledge of how much it costs to create a good, let alone the cost of paying workers and the bills accumulated through production.

Taking money from one business and giving it to another does not &quotromote" business. Understand, small businesses are not always run very well. In fact, most of the time they go under because they don't sell a product or service that people want or the business is poorly managed. So here's my conclusion as to why you can't give smaller businesses profit made from big businesses.

1. There's no guarantee the small business will become successful if you dump money into it. This means that the money put in could very well be wasted.

2. We shouldn't spend other people's money. If you believe a small business will work, you should put the money in yourself or persuade others to put money in. You should not use legislation to take money from big businesses and give to businesses that you personally favor.

3. Even if a small business does enough to keep from going under, it is not doing so because of it's own profit. It is staying afloat only because they are getting benefits. If a business can not make money using their own profit, they are a liability.

Why is it hard for small businesses to compete with big businesses? Big businesses work with politicians to create business regulations that smaller businesses can not afford. This is why we need less government in business.

You didn't really do anything. You created an assumption, which you can't say proves anything. It's like writing a book where you try to prove/disprove something, and all the sources come from other books you have written.

If you want to say "This is evidence", you should provide real examples.

Posting with alternate accounts I see.

Then they die, and life keeps on going. And the rich get richer.

The USSR was socialist, are you telling me it would be fun to live there?

And you promote that?

USSR was Communist.

Kind of. Populations only get strong when its weaker members die off.

Fine, I'll give in. People working together is good when there are three of them. Unfortunately, there aren't any industrialized countries with 3 people in them. Thus your example is a bad one. You are way oversimplifying the situation.

Fine, I'll give in. People working together is good when there are three of them. Unfortunately, there aren't any industrialized countries with 3 people in them. Thus your example is a bad one. You are way oversimplifying the situation.

Libertarianism is lovely, on paper. Fact is, companies would and do try to screw the consumer over. I suggest people read the Jungle by Upton Sinclair. All the abuses he writes in the book are true. It was due to his book that the FDA formed.

Remember the lead contamination in kids toys a couple years back? If the government hadn't made the issue public, toy companies would have swept it under the rug and sued anyone who claimed otherwise.

Let's face it, a free market is one run by greed and the only people who win are the CEOs, everyone gets ****ed over.

Yes. You always have such a strong argument with such little examples. You would be great for a debate team. Short and simple, yet convincing and powerful.

I know I am simplifying it, but Libertarianism doesn't work in the small scale so there is no reason it should work in the large scale.

Let's face it, a free market is one run by greed and the only people who win are the CEOs, everyone gets ****ed over.

Well going by that logic. Gravity doesn't work on the quantum level, so it shouldn't work on the macroscopic level, right?

First of, not everyone else gets cussed over. Only those who let themselves get cussed over get cussed over. While the companies do share some of the blame, the consumers do as well.

It still works, but a bit different.

I really am not in the mood to talk to someone who says cuss. I feel like I'm talking to an eight year old.

Id say the dems showed no respect for the democratic system by simply up and leaving.

I dont see where this came from at all. Teachers dont look at becoming teachers for money they do it because they like to be teachers. When has teaching ever been a job people look at for raising families under.

Of course they were. Especially when the private worker paid for the state worker's benefits and their pension. State workers pay 0% of their own pension.

Gravity doesn't CUSSing work on the quantum level. Get your facts straight.

Resulting to ad hominem arguments I see. How very petty of you Kevin. For clarification the only reason I use that, is because it looks more attractive than those annoying little stars.

I know this has dissolved from politics to gravity, but please take it to another thread or make another one,I'd rather not have this thread closed.
Rhetorical questions shouldn't be taken seriously.

It does work, but it works differently. Quantam Gravity

Not it doesn't. Just use words that aren't censored, like hell.

Then don't complain next time you get food poisoning. Or when you get a defective product. OR use a product that, hey guess what, it contains highly carcongenic materials in it.