I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
lol, out of context is how people do things these days. this applies to everyone who reads a book for the sake of convincing others your beliefs. this is done with every religion, and atheists as well. this is well known by now as the cherrypicking fallacy.
Doesnt mean we have to sink to such dastardly levels and tricks. We may not be religious, but that doesn't mean we should immediately disparage the whole concept and phenomenon with poor arguments. Militant atheism is just as disgusting as evangelicism when it's used against moderate Or lax believers.
Doesnt mean we have to sink to such dastardly levels and tricks. We may not be religious, but that doesn't mean we should immediately disparage the whole concept and phenomenon with poor arguments. Militant atheism is just as disgusting as evangelicism when it's used against moderate Or lax believers.
I didn't say it was a bad thing, I only said it happens. most of the time, we don't mean to do it, but there is no way to prove your point in context without having to cover all of the bases of context. It's simply more convenient, and it allows you to prove your point while still holding the attention of the audience.
Yes that is fine and dandy until the out of context thing blows up like what that user did. One quote he picked:
His friends thought he was insane. And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself. Mark 3:21
Is clearly taken out of context and doesn't even come close to what the original purpose intended it to be. His friends thought he was mad for letting so many sick come and be healed that he and his new apostles couldn't eat.
This is the actual verse.
Then he went home. Such a large crowd gathered again that Jesus and his disciplesp couldnât even eat. When his family heard about it, they went to restrain him, because they kept saying, âHeâs out of his mind!â
So yes, context does matter a lot. We want to prove religion is bad? Just name the Taliban's rule of Pakistan. The LRA. Islamic groups vowing for Israel's destruction. But misquoting the Bible? Doesn't seem to cut much.
I did not compile the lists. The link for the person who did is at the bottom of the second one. Just so people don't complain to me about any mistakes. Also, surely all 50 quotes can't be out of context?!
Islamic groups vowing for Israel's destruction.
In my opinion, they're the ones in the right in that scenario. After all, it only became israel when Britain and the U.S said so. Sorry, going off topic a bit...
In my opinion, they're the ones in the right in that scenario. After all, it only became israel when Britain and the U.S said so. Sorry, going off topic a bit...
As an aside; I feel they have a right to fight for their cause. I just dont believe in utter annilation of people who are descendants of the initial settlers in te name of God or a Holy command. That's why I'm more inclined to Fatah and not Hamas or Hezbollah or JI.
I feel they have a right to fight for their cause. I just dont believe in utter annilation of people who are descendants of the initial settlers in te name of God or a Holy command. That's why I'm more inclined to Fatah and not Hamas or Hezbollah or JI.
I agree that it isn't right, but there is currently nothing we can do to change things now. if anything, there is little chance that palestinians and israelis will get along, but if it does happen, then I predict that relations within the ME will mellow out.
I agree that it isn't right, but there is currently nothing we can do to change things now. if anything, there is little chance that palestinians and israelis will get along, but if it does happen, then I predict that relations within the ME will mellow out.
There is a growing sentiment in both camps especially from TR people that a two state solution is the only way out. I don't think the conflict is intractable, the PLO did recognize Israel's right to exist at Oslo. The Israelis did support the most pro peace PM before he was sadly assassinated. Religion only came into play in the 70s when people were tired of all other secular alternatives. Who knows, maybe an Arab Spring style peoples movement in both nations?
And I made a mistake earlier. Taliban rule of Afghanistan.*
I believe Christianity is a totally logical religion. It has historical evidence. It prophecy which has proven to be true(look at the Old Testament than look at Jesus. prophecy fufilled hundreds of years after it was written.) Jesus in known to have lived, he is found in secular documents. I am not an ignorant person with blind faith. I look at the facts. The earth could not have come from nothing. Supposing that everything did come form nothing, Evolution is improbable (look at the odds) in addition to many other problems that I don't think it should be classified as the truth (as it is taught in schools.). To all who say God is an impossibility, how do you know? Without the Bible I would say it does not matter, but I have looked at the facts of evolution,Christianity,Humanism, and Christianity seems like the one that aligns with the facts. I honestly think it takes more faith to believe that nothing made the universe than that God made it.
Science is based on facts, compared to the big pile of myths lumped together with rare historical evidence into the bible. Think christianity is logical? You're ignoring important parts of it then.
Supposing that everything did come form nothing, Evolution is improbable (look at the odds) in addition to many other problems that I don't think it should be classified as the truth (as it is taught in schools.).
1. BigBang =/= Evolution 2. Who cares about made up odds? It's a certainty evolution did happen, so odds play exactly no role at all. 3. What are the odds that some magic dude floats in the void for an eternity and suddenly feels like creating a whole universe out of nothing?
To all who say God is an impossibility, how do you know?
To you who says the Big Bang, Abiogenesis and Evolution are all impossibilities, how do you know?
You say you've looked into the 'facts', but obviously you missed most of them.
I did not say the big bang,evolution was impossible. I said it was so improbable it was not worth trusting. How do you know for sure evolution is true? It takes a whole lot of faith in something to disregard anything that might oppose it has fact. I think Albert Einstein was a genius. He was was a deist. he believed in a god but not in the Bible. I believe in the Bible and God but this shows that he was not so stupid as to think we are accidents.
"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations."~Albert Einstein
More specifically, out of his voice in a vacuum with no medium.
Sounds like a Thu'um.. God is Dovahkiin!! lulz
How do you know for sure evolution is true?
Overwhelming evidence from paleontology, biology of evolution, genetics etc.; indirect as well as direct observation; common sense in the light of basic biological mechanisms. For more details, see MageGrayWolf's About.
It takes a whole lot of faith in something to disregard anything that might oppose it has fact.
I just don't consider the case of a creator god as long as the evidence points to natural evolution instead of creation.
I think Albert Einstein was a genius. He was was a deist. he believed in a god but not in the Bible. I believe in the Bible and God but this shows that he was not so stupid as to think we are accidents.
That may have been his personal belief, but I don't think this has any implications on his research; by that I mean that his research does not support his personal beliefs as he was reasonable enough to separate them. Besides, as genius as he may have been, he's but one individual with his individual beliefs.
How do you know that Evolution is true? completely and totally true? You won't accept the possibility of God and yet you say we can know for sure evolution is true. You just lied about me saying evolution is impossible. I said it was improbable to a point where I would not accept it as fact. What is this "roof" you have to say evolution is all true. Is it the scientist who change their minds with every piece of bone that pops up? also, where did everything come from to start the big bang? everything can not come from nothing. I agree with Einstein here. He was a deist (believes in a god somewhere out there). I am a Christian (Believes in the God of the Bible and in Jesus Christ.) Although I do not agree on all of Einsteins views, he was one of the smartest men of the past century. He recognized order. not chaos. a design. not accidental mutations.He believed that something started everything and I do too.
"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations."~Albert Einstein
