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UltraPointer
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I have a question and it would be nice If somebody could answer it.

How is it possible that somebody believes in God although there doesn't exist any proof or at least an evidence for Gods existance besides some old books?

In my opinion God's an explanation for everything unknown.

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HahiHa
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Regent

It went in a slightly different direction than the OP, and different than the christian ftw thread, so I guess that's ok

Darkroot
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Peasant

Same goes for energy btw. Sorry for doubleposting.


Matter is just energy that's vibrating at a certain frequencies, thus we are just sentient forms of energy interacting with more energy in an illusion of a solid world.

But everything in physics are forces that exist and not formed.

Physics started to work and exist as soon as after the bing bagn, at least the physics we know of today. There probably
were different physics before the big bang.


True the laws we have now were not even present at the beginning.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Particle_overview.svg/800px-Particle_overview.svg.png

As the universe cooled they diverged.
UltraPointer
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Nomad

I just want to remember everybody that Energy can't disappear.

Matter is just energy that's vibrating at a certain frequencies, thus we are just sentient forms of energy interacting with more energy in an illusion of a solid world.


That's exactly what I mean.
qwerty1011
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To go back the point of this thread people started religions becuase they knew no science and it sounded a very logical explanation. Children from a young age are genetically programmed to believe what a figure of authority tells them and since they were taught about religion from a young age they believed it for the rest of their life. Some broke free of this brainwashing but most don't especially since most religions call questioning it a sin

UltraPointer
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To go back the point of this thread people started religions becuase they knew no science and it sounded a very logical explanation. Children from a young age are genetically programmed to believe what a figure of authority tells them and since they were taught about religion from a young age they believed it for the rest of their life. Some broke free of this brainwashing but most don't especially since most religions call questioning it a sin


That's the point. I I can't understand why people still believe in God, because now we have science.
qwerty1011
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but some people say they feel god and attribute luck as miracles which proves his existence to him. In Monty Pythons Life of Brian there are some really funny scenes where they do this. Anyway if you are told you go to heaven once you die and science says you are just dead people like religion because it is comforting

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people like religion because it is comforting


I think that's an oversimplification of things. I mean, wouldn't it be comforting to believe that Santa Claus actually existed and brought you awesome presents if you're good? But obviously we don't believe in Santa.
What's the difference between these two beliefs?
Gremlion
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It is a crutch for those, who can't operate with own life.
"I can't get work because god don't want it from me", and that's all.
Easiest explanation for ignoramus "It's made by God".
Cleaning of conscience - "it's not me, it's machinations of the devil".
So many people choose easiest way, everybody can see it.

UltraPointer
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What's the difference between these two beliefs?


Santa Claus has something to do with matter. Santa is a Man who lives at the North Pole and brings Presents at Christmas Eve. That means that Santa is something you can touch. And you will at least stop believing in Santa till you don't find presents under you christmas tree.
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people like religion because it is comforting


If I found it comforting to believe that I could jump into the air and fly around like a superhero, would that in any way justify that belief or make that belief reality? If it doesn't in this situation then why would it for God?
qwerty1011
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I think that's an oversimplification of things. I mean, wouldn't it be comforting to believe that Santa Claus actually existed and brought you awesome presents if you're good? But obviously we don't believe in Santa.
What's the difference between these two beliefs?


Well there was more than one reason why people believe in religions and I just listed a few. And if santa leaves no presents you wont believe in him but if God is in no apparent way affecting your life you put it down to "He is testing me" or some lame excuse like that but with the rose-tinted spectacles of faith it is perfectly true and just
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Does it have to be a creator? No.

Umm... no. If a creator is one who creates, then how could something that creates NOT be a creator?
UltraPointer
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Umm... no. If a creator is one who creates, then how could something that creates NOT be a creator?


A Creator have to be a person who plannes to create something. And A Creation doesn't need a creator.
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Umm... no. If a creator is one who creates, then how could something that creates NOT be a creator?

By "creator" I meant a will that consciously creates. This is an unnecessary assumption. In the case that something has been created, then of course you would have some sort of creation event.
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A creation must be created by an event or a creator. However, if a creator creates something, something must create the creator. So at the very beginning there must've been an event because there would've had to be another event to create any creator

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