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ShadowShank696
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id like to see how many different religons we have on ag
so post ur religon on here

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darkxrainx
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This just compromised any reliability you might have otherwise had.


Why did this have to compromise my reliability? As long as I'm happy, and have made the decision for myself, what's the problem. I've looked at other religions and have read some other religious texts other than the Bible. I believe that Christianity is the best for me. Just like you believe Atheism is the best choice for you.
MageGrayWolf
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Why did this have to compromise my reliability? As long as I'm happy, and have made the decision for myself, what's the problem.


When it comes to reality religion plays a poor roll. Yes one can be happy believing a lie, but it's no better then a drunk man being happier then a sober one.

Just like you believe Atheism is the best choice for you.


In many cases it's just an acceptance of reality that leads to atheism. Not because it makes the person happy.
Nurvana
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Not because it makes the person happy.



I'll say... if anything it's rather depressing.
MageGrayWolf
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I'll say... if anything it's rather depressing.


It can be quite exciting at times as well. Think about it this way, all those miracles and amazing things said that God did, we can say it was us. If it's an event in nature that is attributed to God, we can possibly reproduce and benefit further from it. It's the difference between thinking you can cast fireball spells with a magic wand and actually being able to shoot fireballs.

Weekend Project: Make a Fireball Shooter
qwerty1011
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Why did this have to compromise my reliability? As long as I'm happy, and have made the decision for myself, what's the problem. I've looked at other religions and have read some other religious texts other than the Bible. I believe that Christianity is the best for me. Just like you believe Atheism is the best choice for you.


So you have based your religion on which one feels best for you. I'd base it on what is right and if I don't know just become an atheist and make your own moral codes to follow. And before I gt flamed by a Christian I meant obeying societies laws obviously.
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I've looked at other religions and have read some other religious texts other than the Bible. I believe that Christianity is the best for me. Just like you believe Atheism is the best choice for you.

Belief is not a choice, atheism isn't either. So you think christianism is the best for you? Do you even truly believe in their god? Or do you just convince yourself you believe?
qwerty1011
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^^You can't choose to believe. You will only believe through proof, evidence or logic. Through childhood indoctrination a lot can be seen as logic

sprooschicken
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you dont choose which religion to follow religion(and atheism) chose you, it depends on how your mind works, if it makes you happy you should really think if you believe it or noit

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People don't always need logic to belive something. When i'm dreaming i almost never know it's fake, i just belive it real. Most of the time people just need to see something or be told it's true by someone they trust.

zakyman
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I am a reform Jew, because that was my upbringing.

qwerty1011
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^^That doesn't mean you believe in it. You can always convert.

you dont choose which religion to follow religion(and atheism) chose you, it depends on how your mind works, if it makes you happy you should really think if you believe it or noit


Lots of theists would be atheists if they han't been brought up as a theist. It is the same for atheists. Childhood indoctrination changes how peoples minds work.

People don't always need logic to belive something. When i'm dreaming i almost never know it's fake, i just belive it real. Most of the time people just need to see something or be told it's true by someone they trust.


While dreaming you can't think properly. It feels real so you think it is real. You can't have proper thoughts.
vesperbot
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vesperbot the best example i can give you of how ridiculous your argument is, is from the simpsons (link cut)
your saying the same thing, that because we cant prove god isnt there that he definately is
Hmm. Which of the arguments you consider being this ridiculous? Please do a quote-tag bracketing of the phrase currently argumenting against.
God seems pretty inconsistent with how he operates
There are parables about how God behaves, showing motives unknown to humans that are in line of God's love and justice. Don't forget that "all-loving" is not only "all-forgiving", but also "just" and "holy". This is pretty hard to behave to fulfill all the requirements, especially for an omniscient being, but God succeeds at this. We are not to judge God, because we don't know the hidden intentions of others, and we don't know what outcome our own deeds will produce, even if we're doing something fully moral from the first glance. This is normal that you don't understand, but it's abnormal if you don't want to understand.
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Don't forget that "all-loving" is not only "all-forgiving", but also "just" and "holy".

It seems that when you define all-loving as "all-forgiving" and "just" and "holy", you're overloading the definition of all-loving and (potentially) creating contradictions. How are we to "weight" the "just", "holy" and "all-forgiving" aspects if they conflict with one another? Or can all three be maximized to the greatest extreme without any conflicting?
vesperbot
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It seems that when you define all-loving as "all-forgiving" and "just" and "holy", you're overloading the definition of all-loving and (potentially) creating contradictions. How are we to "weight" the "just", "holy" and "all-forgiving" aspects if they conflict with one another? Or can all three be maximized to the greatest extreme without any conflicting?
Probably missed the word "God" after "all-loving". With humans this is indeed contradicting, since all of these are unable to be maximized neither within a single human nor within a society. God is capable of maximizing all of this using time. Humans are unable to perform a punishment on the one who deserved, if that one already died, God can.
Einfach
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Probably missed the word "God" after "all-loving". With humans this is indeed contradicting, since all of these are unable to be maximized neither within a single human nor within a society. God is capable of maximizing all of this using time. Humans are unable to perform a punishment on the one who deserved, if that one already died, God can.

Well, let's talk syntactically for a few seconds. All-loving God means that All-loving applies to God. All-loving, you say, maximizes "all-forgiving", "just", and "holy" at the same time.
But how do we define "all-loving"? How can three things independently (since any maximized would maximize the others, according to God's capability) and simultaneously dependently (since it's not "just" all-forgiving, but also just and holy) describe God?
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