ForumsWEPRDoes prayer even help?

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Paarfam
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People often complain about how their prayers always go unanswered, and I was just wondering what the AG community thought about this topic. I was also interested in where your opinions where on asking God for something.

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OperationNilo
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argh... stupid small keys...

314d1
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Then!? God doesn't only forgives while you're living.


I see I am stressing your tiny mind with this..
When you use the word "Rather" at the beginning of the sentience, then use the word "Then" latter in your sentience, you are choosing the first option. What I am saying is I would die on my feet rather than living on my knees.

See you in Hell, wait, never mind. I'll be singing in Heaven.


Have fun kissing *** to your torturer.

That's a bunch of crap. I'd say I'm unimpressed with your imagination, because if I'm faced with an omnipotent being who I either love, or I am thrown into eternal torment, I know what my choice is. If hell is real, 314d1, then you cannot comprehend its pain, its torture. And faced with that when you have the option of repentance and salvation, not only would you not have the guts to turn away, you wouldn't want to. No one would.


I would disagree. I was always a strong starter. If you where correct, I would only complain after I was being tortured. Really it would be as easy as saying "No". I wouldn't want to worship this god, especially not forever.
loloynage2
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''...hell's greatest torment is that the people there can see the beautiful heaven they miss...''

Borrowing 314d1, example with the nazis.

If you where about to be killed in a concentration camp and you looked at the position you could of been, would you really envy the position? Or would you hate nazism for making such an injust system in the first place?
MageGrayWolf
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So, you'd rather burn in the highest form of torture for all of eternity instead of giving up your dignity? And still, God does know all.


Which gets back to God's test and thus hell being completely pointless.
Nurvana
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If you where correct, I would only complain after I was being tortured. Really it would be as easy as saying "No".


Perhaps if you were offered a cigarette or a prostitute. None of us, I doubt, have had a gun put to our heads, let alone been threatened with an ideal such as hell.
OperationNilo
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in fact, I bet God is reading all these posts. he knows all.

Nurvana
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in fact, I bet God is reading all these posts. he knows all.


I suddenly feel violated... even though God cares for us all individually, I think he has better things to do.
MageGrayWolf
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Have fun kissing *** to your torturer.


You do realize the threat of hell is nothing more then an idol threat when one doesn't believe it exists. It's far more effective on those who think this crap is real. So it seems to be more a way of controlling through fear those who are already buying into the religion. And fear can be a great way to control people.
314d1
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Perhaps if you were offered a cigarette or a prostitute. None of us, I doubt, have had a gun put to our heads, let alone been threatened with an ideal such as hell.


A cigarette or a prostitute or hell, correct? I would be more capable, but still would reject the idea. The pain of my Conscience would be worse then hell could. Once again it would be more like the killer pointing the gun to your head and saying "Help me go on a killing spree, or I will kill you". Not only to watch your friends, families, and other peoples friends and families be killed and tortured, but to actively help in the killings.
MageGrayWolf
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in fact, I bet God is reading all these posts. he knows all.


If God knows all he wouldn't need to.
sk8brder246
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prepare your anus


hey this isnt prison.
OperationNilo
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dont call my religious life crap!

MageGrayWolf
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If God is omniscient then any prayer is completely pointless. He would already know what we need when we needed and if we even desire his assistance even before we would.

Nurvana
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The pain of my Conscience would be worse then hell could.


What is an atheist's conscience?
Not only to watch your friends, families, and other peoples friends and families be killed and tortured, but to actively help in the killings.


And how would that be?
prepare your anus


Ah jeez *sweats*...
OperationNilo
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nope. but this isnt prostitue island or the arena either

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