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Alexistigerspice
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Ive heard game playing can be related to atheism, because it contains such violence and unrealistic situations that it can make a person stray from gods path. I am a devout christian, and i wanted to know if that is a popular belief, or simply a rumor that has spread around.

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redbedhead
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Ah alright samy. I was going to say that throwing out a random statistic without backing that more people are atheists that prefer to game because I'm not a 100% positive but I'd assume that it's most likely equal across the board. But I do agree that the factors just don't correlate when it comes to violence in video games to atheism (otherwise I'd be one right now.) :P

benman113
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Ehh it could work both ways. A lot of the times video games make references to god; for example, "Lets hope to god we can pull this off"

My point is, it is a sin to worship something other than god

I've never sung songs about cooking mama or prayed to the cooking mama lady.
Also if your atheist you don't worship anything so If you worship a video your not atheist your a Starfoxest or A Callofdutyest.
dair5
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I don't think it affects me much. And i agree with Walker, that video games affect as much as any other media. There's really no other evidence to say otherwise.

MageGrayWolf
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Also if your atheist you don't worship anything so If you worship a video your not atheist your a Starfoxest or A Callofdutyest.


Not true. The only qualification for being atheist is having a lack og belief in a god/s. One can worship things all they like and still be an atheist, though I don't know why one would.
loloynage2
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So much wrong with this thread.

And, playing games too often can take away too much time where you could be praying or spreading gods word.

I rather stay 24/7 on games enjoying myself then have to talk to myself believing I'm talking to some Jewish zombie all day.

Some people become obsessed with games, practically worshiping them.

Wouldn't that be the same thing as worshipping your god? Just instead your worshipping something real.

My point is, it is a sin to worship something other than god.

Basically everything is a sin.

But restating my first question, do you think that game playing can lead to atheism, keeping in mind the things i have stated above?

I don't think there was one instance, on earth, that someone lost faith in god because of video games. Sure they pray less, but they still believe in god.

Games may exist, and are a tangible thing, but just because God isnt tangible himself doesnt mean that he isnt real.

Yes, it kinda does.

There are so many things that cannot simply be explained by science

Science is reality. If science can't explain it, then it's not real.

Absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence.

Yes, yes it does.
Kasic
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*Rolls on floor laughing and pointing*

Seriously, WHERE did you come up with this? Did you know that when there's more ice cream sold there's more murders? :O

I wonder why...

Maybe ice cream is evilz.

Or maybe they aren't related in that Ice cream sells on a hot day and people are out, making it more likely for something to happen...

Some people become obsessed with games, practically worshiping them.


Obsessed i've seen, practically worshiping...never.

But restating my first question, do you think that game playing can lead to atheism, keeping in mind the things i have stated above?


Pfft. No. They aren't related. I can tell you that I became an Atheist LONG before I ever started gaming.

And, playing games too often can take away too much time where you could be praying or spreading gods word.


So you could sit there talking to yourself in hopes of gaining something or feeling better...or have fun. Or you could go out and bother people who don't care for your proseltizing and would rather you not disturb them.

There are so many things that cannot simply be explained by science


Like...?

because it contains such violence and unrealistic situations that it can make a person stray from gods path.


Utter failure. Yet another person who believes that those who do not follow their own religion are savages, when you look at your own holy book there is more murder, ****, slavery, torture, punishment, and violence in general than in any other book I know of.
loloynage2
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because it contains such violence and unrealistic situations that it can make a person stray from gods path.

Actually, people play these games because it makes them happy. Something you religious folk don't like if the "happiness" doesn't abide to your rules.
Kasic
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Oh holy god, the heavenly father of our savior Jesus Christ...please, help me to win this COD Tournament.

loloynage2
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Oh holy god, the heavenly father of our savior Jesus Christ...please, help me to win this COD Tournament.

Lol, that one comment just destroyed all the points and arguments the OP was trying make/did.
qwerty1011
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Have you even read the bible. Read it and say it isn't violent. Pay particular attention to leviticus, deutoronomy and joshua.

spartandestroyer
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thing is that in the bible god killed loads of people and that evil devil guy only killed about 1 or 2 so why be on gods side?

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Back to the original question: no, playing violent video game for a long time doesn't "transform" you to an Atheist. It just makes your eyes hurt a bit if you spend too much time in front of the screen.

I don't think Atheists to be pro violence at all.

Avorne
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You all should have just told the guy 'yeah it does' because... Hey, more video games for us, right?

On a serious note though - this is a problem with religious fanaticism, honestly, people get the strangest ideas from other religious fanatics and then you have to gently lead them by the hand and explain that video games aren't going to lead you anywhere.

HahiHa
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Worshipping video games? lol...
Anyway why are you making such a fuss about idolatry? What are the easter bunny and santa other than old transformed pagan idols taken over by christianity to not upset people they converted? When we celebrate christmas, don't you get worried by the fact that everyone is all "christmas, santa, presents!!" instead of "let's commemorate jesus"? Same goes for easter.

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I realize there was violence in the bible. The violence in games are scarcely related to God or Jesus. They depict violence in a gratifying way. And, playing games too often can take away too much time where you could be praying or spreading gods word. Some people become obsessed with games, practically worshiping them. Eventually, they may lose their connection with God, because they have become so absorbed in gaming. My point is, it is a sin to worship something other than god. It is called 'Idolizing'. God is priority. But restating my first question, do you think that game playing can lead to atheism, keeping in mind the things i have stated above? Im simply asking for a second opinion, not trolling or fishing or whatever else you my call it.

No you're just a whackjob. People don't worship games they buy and play them for entertainment. There are influences in everything and violence in games is not a strong one because they know it isn't real. When your puny "real" religion comes along and preaches everything in it is real that is a bigger influence - so yeah, I'm gonna pray to an unproven God and hopes he forgives me for worshipping a game.

No, I'm not going to be nice about this, you put "Atheism in Relation to Game Playing" - and then you pulled a fast one by trying to rip on Atheism which, undoubtedly is a more logical and reasonable approach to "the meaning of the universe".

It's quite a shame actually - people moaning about others having no faith, it ironically makes me lose faith in humanity.

Obsessed i've seen, practically worshiping...never.

To be quite fair I would worship Fable 1 before I worship any deity because Fable 1 made my think about my morality - I developed my own (because I have free will) and eventually disagreed with the Bible and other religious archives on a variety of different topics. So, middle finger to an under-developed 2thousand year old book, and a weeping for those who still follow it.

Pfft. No. They aren't related. I can tell you that I became an Atheist LONG before I ever started gaming.

Me? No. I started gaming at roughly the same time - yeah, I played Operation Flashpoint at the age of 6 I believe (Yep, I know that's young) but because of (what I think is) good parenting I am aware of some things - I don't know how to put it but basically I was aware of what I would do (which is partially due to Fable 1's fault, lol) and whether it was a good or bad thing. Right now, I can play the most violent games and watch the most disgusting videos - it won't effect me nearly as much as you'd think. I keep an open mind and an outside perspective (mostly), but what you say is, true or not, a stupid thing to imply.

You said you were Christian - I know people who always find sly ways to rip on others religions and / or races. Can you really blame me?

Oh, and guess what? They're often religious.

Religion is racist, you might say. And you know what? It probably is - look at the slave trade, I hate to bring this up but yeah - religion was the leader of that time and it caused so much depression, oppression and lack of human rights. By not using slavery are you not defying God's will?

No, don't do it.

then you have to gently lead them by the hand and explain that video games aren't going to lead you anywhere.

If they can't use logic to realize God isn't real chances are they're not going to use logic.

Or they're those idiots who use what they can in what situation they're in, but if it's used against them they're like "Err.. no".

I don't think Atheists to be pro violence at all.

I believe Atheists as nothing, really. There's a huge variety of Atheists (and not so much for a religious sect), for instance, I'm 14, I own a blog, I'm making 2 stories and I am what you'd probably call a "nerd".

Any other Atheists wanna pop up and give their information?

Plus LOL, I find Atheists to be more intelligent - I can ask someone in the highest set of a class what religion they follow and usually they don't follow one to any huge degree (or even to a degree) - if I ask a lower set they're like "Urgghermmm.. I 'unno."

The most insulting thing I think about this argument is how he came here as if God was real - or indefinitely proven to be. Look at any Christian vs Atheism thread of any sort (Christianity FTW is a good one), and you'll see that Atheists use logic and rarely Christians have much to back themselves up. It's a stupid thing to come here and assume people will give a crap on a topic that for me at least, is incredibly off-topic to ANYTHING.

Anyway, /end rant, I know I could've gone over that better - but hell I don't feel like being kind to people like him anymore because unless I invest so much time doing it, it's not gonna pay off (and I don't consider "so much time" to convince one to five people something that has payed off).

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