God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head. 2nd Kings 2:23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. âGet out of here, baldy!â they said. âGet out of here, baldy!â 2:24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2:25 And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.
You must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yourself, and carry a cross on your back to become a disciple. Luke 14:25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 14:26 âIf anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sistersâ"yes, even their own lifeâ"such a person cannot be my disciple. 14:27 And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. 14:28 âSuppose one of you wants to build a tower. Wonât you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it? 14:29 For if you lay the foundation and are not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule you, 14:30 saying, âThis person began to build and wasnât able to finish.â
Sell your clothes for a sword. Luke 22:35 Then Jesus asked them, âWhen I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?â
âNothing,â they answered.
22:36 He said to them, âBut now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you donât have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 22:37 It is written: âAnd he was numbered with the transgressorsâ[a]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.â 22:38 The disciples said, âSee, Lord, here are two swords.â
âThatâs enough!â he replied.
Beat your children Proverbs 23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish them with the rod, they will not die. 23:14 Punish them with the rod and save them from death.
Moses's Vengence Numbers 31:1 The LORD said to Moses, 31:2 âTake vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.â 31:15 âHave you allowed all the women to live?â he asked them. 31:16 âThey were the ones who followed Balaamâs advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORDâs people. 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
God & Slavery Leviticus 25:40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 25:41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors. 25:42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. 25:43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.
25:44 ââYour male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 25:45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 25:46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Old Testament Counts Matthew 5:17 âDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 5:19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Euh, how do you put metaphorically does example? I mean:
The bible never actually defines this magical item -- 'The Rod'. It's clear it's referring to parents. When a mother has a child, a 'Rod' doesn't come out with it. Punishing, in terms of a parent, starts at day when -- ie, you tell a crying baby to STFU. [You know what I mean]. Why on earth would it use the word save? You clearly can't assume it asks of a parent to beat their child in order to save them from death, that's a pointless paradox as it would only put them closer to death.
So then, using brainpower, one can infer that this beating of the rod must actually put this child in a safer place, further away from death.
And such, you can see that it is parental supervision that will act as a rod to keep the child out of trouble to make sure he doesn't die.
Do you really think that? The way I see it, this Graham character is just trying to point out the metaphorical stuff.
If he picks out everything violent than obviously i think that.
Feel free to enlighten everyone. I'm not against it or anything.
I can't with most of it because i never learned anything about the new testament but here i go.
"Moses's Vengence"
31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Background: The Midianites just ambushed the jews in the desert What it means: When it says "kill every woman who has slept with a man" I'm pretty i learned sure that it means that from now on the jews aren't allowed to marry Midianites because they just ambushed them and any jew that does will be killed.
"God & Slavery"
No one can say the bible is bad because it supports slavery because there wasn't a place in the world at that time that didn't
Year of Jubilee - happens every seven years (This is the first time i have heard the term in English) and jews are required to give their slaves the option to leave.
Every quote here just keeps saying how the jews were required to treat their slaves like they treat their family
"God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head."
I never learned that story but it does sound messed up.
"God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head."
I just realized, i only know the hebrew names for the people so I'm not sure who this is. If it's who i think it is than i could see this situation possibly happening.
Yes, it could be taken that way. But there are still some problems. Why the word "rod"? The first thing you think about rod and child is a rod (or weapon) beating the child. I mean sure, if loopholes u can find a way out.
But of course if your using logical and common sense, someone will never find that in this context, the rod means kind parenting. And it does not help that the verse before it mentions discipline.
What most people would come to would be something like.
"teach your kids the good ways of life by disciplining your child in a stricked violent way".
If the bible wanted to make the message more peaceful then it should of used other words then "rod" and "discipline"
To answer what everyone is saying about slavery being normal. God is supposed ot be the one moral standard so why should his orals change. Oh and all of this is true from the bible and there is no way you can deny it because it is true, or at least you claim it is. And if some bits of the bible are a ,metaphor how can you tell that God isn't one.
To answer what everyone is saying about slavery being normal. God is supposed ot be the one moral standard so why should his orals change.
They didn't take slaves, people had to sell themselves. When you sold yourself, your family gets money and you get treated really nicely so everyone wins. Every 7th year you get the opportunity to go free. The immorality here seems to be nonexistent. You are actually helping these people in some ways.
The laws governing non-Jewish slaves were more harsh than those governing Jewish slaves: non-Jewish slaves could be owned permanently, and bequeathed to the owner's children,[10] whereas Jewish slaves were treated as servants, and were released after 7 years of service. One scholar suggests that the distinction was due to the fact that non-Jewish slaves were subject to the curse of Canaan, whereas God did not want Jews to be slaves because he freed them from Egyptian enslavement.
I messed up. Like i said, this is the first time heard the english term for Jubilee. Jubilee happens every 50 years. There is another event every 7 years i don't know the english term for, but theres another law in exodus 21:2
Should you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall work six years, and in the seventh, he shall go out to freedom without charge.
