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Holladay15
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I ask this because a lot of these forums are of why people believe there is a God but, what about those out there who don't believe in a God? Why don't you think there is a God at all?

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Programpro
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Besides, with so many religions in the world, the probability of picking the right one is quite low, even if one of them was true.


When it comes to picking what's actually correct, you need only consider the facts and your feelings, not specific theories that others have made; because all of those could be true, yet an infinity of other things could be true. Don't think of it as having the right odds in a guessing-game (because, with guessing, the odds are 1/infinity), think of it as choosing what best matches your knowledge.
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Anyone can come up with any religion and in a way most people are right. It's fine to have a religion that you believe is right as long as it doesn't mean causing harm to others who disagree with you. The main thing is accepting other peoples beliefs even if you think they are wrong.

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No one has answered this yet: "What mechanical processes and conditions do you believe are required in order to spawn a consciousness?"


I'm sure I remember answering this but anyway you need sufficient brainpower to overcome and suppress instincts.

Yes, this is a very, very tough one. I guess the basis of my belief in free will is that I feel free. Furthermore, I believe that a consciousness who is simply "taken along for the ride" -- that is, a consciousness who is made to believe he has free will but doesn't -- would not be fooled for long.


NO, if you are programmed to think things just as your body does them then it'd feel like free will and you wouldn't be able to tell.

And look, for all your arguments about where does consciousness and free will come from consciousness comes from all your memories and experiences which have changed you so that you are a bundle of electrical impulses that are influenced by your memories. All of these influence your decisions which is why you have free will to choose what you want but if someone knows everything about you they can predict your future actions which is how predeterminism works.

So there is no God because you say there is no God?


No, because if there was a god he''d give me a reason to believe him. There is no reason, ergo, no god.

When it comes to picking what's actually correct, you need only consider the facts and your feelings, not specific theories that others have made; because all of those could be true, yet an infinity of other things could be true. Don't think of it as having the right odds in a guessing-game (because, with guessing, the odds are 1/infinity), think of it as choosing what best matches your knowledge.


But if one was divine it should have made all the others turn into it because it had all that proof behind it. Why would god let false religions snatch away his believers. If it is pick and choose which one is holy how do you know any are holy? And if you know it why doesn't everyone else?
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No, because if there was a god he''d give me a reason to believe him. There is no reason, ergo, no god.


Pretty much how I feel. If god was omnescient/loving, he would know what to do to let you know for sure that he exists so as to spare you eternal seperation from him (I won't even go into how satan can defy god anyways) The argument "you wouldn't believe no matter what" is bull****, as one, god would know what would make us believe, and two, I can list quite a few things that would make me seriously consider it, and a handful of things that would convince me right off the bat. Since NONE of these has happened, and every so called "miracle" is reportedly just some strange event that is often inflated through word of mouth and time, or just pure chance ascribed to a deity.
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I don't think theres a god simply because science has proven alot of believes wrong. plus i don't think that one holy being could dicide what we do, what happens to us, and how were created.

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Yes, make a completely unfounded assumption and act like this is proof. How do you know ths feeling is god? Hindus, muslims, christians all feel god but they have incompatible religions so it can't be god.


Don't go into religions my friend, because religions are just man made. It has no links to get attached or detached to the prime soul-god. You try once, and then ask me. God can come in any form. It is innocence on those person's part that their don't feel that there is a god.
Why we always say god forbid me, when we commit a mistake, why we always pray, why your wishes comes true?? why?? If there is no god, then to whom we pray. Because he is there, and we feel his importance. People are not fools who knows that there is god. It is just a perception of individual who accepts or rejects a thought. You know people's opinions are like Google's homepage image, image also changes and thoughts also. You will get to know this one day or the other.
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Don't go into religions my friend, because religions are just man made. It has no links to get attached or detached to the prime soul-god. You try once, and then ask me. God can come in any form. It is innocence on those person's part that their don't feel that there is a god.
Why we always say god forbid me, when we commit a mistake, why we always pray, why your wishes comes true?? why?? If there is no god, then to whom we pray. Because he is there, and we feel his importance. People are not fools who knows that there is god. It is just a perception of individual who accepts or rejects a thought. You know people's opinions are like Google's homepage image, image also changes and thoughts also. You will get to know this one day or the other.


But what you describe is a form of religion and therefore man made and therefore wrong. You can't baqck up your argument anymore than I can back up my theory of holy paper: I have a piece of paper that is god. I burn it and therefore have killed god. As our theory revolve around the same lack of proof you must think god is dead. And those are simply phrases integrated into society from our superstitious past which no longer have religious connotations. And almost all wishes don't come true. And stuff which logically would happen doesn't count as a wish.

And agin I will ask you not to make such a completely unfounded assumption and not back it up with proof.
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My english is far not good enough to post all my arguments.
But there are more than enough! I'm thinking that religion answers many question, that can't be answered. If you are part of a religion, you are ''knowing'', not searching. You are not scared because of death. After that, it continues. Religion is the easy way. Just a comfortable tool for mankind.

indie55
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Religion is the easy way.

Tell that to all the martyrs. Oh wait they're dead.
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My english is far not good enough to post all my arguments.
But there are more than enough! I'm thinking that religion answers many question, that can't be answered. If you are part of a religion, you are ''knowing'', not searching. You are not scared because of death. After that, it continues. Religion is the easy way. Just a comfortable tool for mankind.


No there aren't. If you really struggle use google translate to translate it. And you may be knowing but you know the wrong thing.
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If you really struggle use google translate to translate it. And you may be knowing but you know the wrong thing.


I'm not knowing, I'm searching! The hard way. I don't believe the things that were told me as a child. I'm asking questions. Translate my arguments with google? I understand, the easy way, too. You are definitly part of a religion.
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I'm not knowing, I'm searching! The hard way. I don't believe the things that were told me as a child. I'm asking questions. Translate my arguments with google? I understand, the easy way, too. You are definitly part of a religion.


Your sentence is too muddled to be able to make sense of this really. I sort of get what you're trying to say, but i'm not at all sure since I have more than one idea of what you're saying :/
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Sorry. One of your ideas is sure right . I only wanted to say: Never stop thinking for yourself. When I'm a while member of this forum, my english will be better. Promise.

Holladay15
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I beg to differ, I have no religion yet I understand how the universe runs rather well. And you are right, Religion is the crutch and blanket for those who don't want to consider their lives are not all mapped out, that there is no universal plan.


Actually, when your in a religion its probably the hardest thing someone can get into because you are easily judged, stereotypes but, they know that it happens just wanted to clarify that, Muslims are a great example of that
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Foraker btw your sentenced actually made sense i understood it simply just add some comas

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