so, if it is not random, then are you saying that it is planned? as random=coincidence and the antonym of random is planned. then who might plan everything that happened? you are contradicting your belief, man...
This is not a dilemma between random and planned. There was an infinitely long time space for the big bang to e caused by sub atomic particles and it was caused and everything else was a chain reaction. There is no need for your magic sky daddy.
i am obsessed with death because eventually, we will have to face it. it is a REALLY BIG matter that many people tend to forget about it, UNTIL they themselves are at the end of their life. so, we shouldn't discuss about death? the same thing as we shouldnt discuss about our old life ahead? be realistic, people..
This is illogical. We will die eventually so the logical thing to do is to live life to the full. Enjoy yourself, make life better for other people, these are all worthy causes. I don't want to live forever. It might be nice to live for a few thousand years but I would run out o things to do and seeing all my family and friends die wouldn't be very nice. Nothing will be achieved by being fixated on death. It is like doing a job and spending all your time thinking about retirement because it will eventually happen. You should be fixated on life because that is happening all the time.
this is where the problem lie, my friends. if everybody have their own meaning in life, then it would not be a problem if my meanings in life are to **** and kill others. if the purpose of life is to enjoy it, then it would be a problem if i enjoy life by stealing from others. but, nevertheless, all atheists are condemning terrorists, cursing suicides. why would you people do good in the first place? because it's GOOD and you feel good when you do good? then i feel good when i do bad things, is it a problem? should you jail me when i kill? who decided what's good and what not in the first place? well, i believe it were religious people who promote good in the first place.
Look, from now on you must think about what you are writing, read it over, get rid of all the logical fallacies and take out all the stereotypes. Society works better if everyone has the same basic morals so if someone breaks these then it will bring down the whole system unless there are consequences. Consequences discourage people from doing that. I think that it is peoples choice to commit suicide or not. I can't force people not to commit suicide. And terrorists break societies moral codes which is wrong. People have decided what is good and bad and decided that things which affect other people ina way they do not want is bad. So murder **** and robbery are bad. And this rule can be suspended if people have broken it so thye can be put in prison against their will. And I personally think that anyone who supports slavery, racism, sexism, **** and capital punishment over really petty things is a complete and utter ******* and anyone who says they are good is a complete and utter ******* themselves. Or misinformed. Strangely enough all of those things were recorded in the bible as being good and supported by god.
most of you people refuse to believe in god because you believe that god determines every action that you do. then, that makes a killer innocent because god is the one who control him to do so, right? well, there is a religion which teaches that we do have control over our action, however, god is the one who determines whether or not to approve our choice. it's like you do something good for your mom hoping that she will give you money for candy. however, it's your mom's choice whether to give you money or not. naturally, when you do something good, she will give you the money. however, sometimes she refuses to because she knows the unhealthiness of the candy. maybe i should go explore this religion.
No it is because we don't think a complete and utter ******* should be called god and also it is completely illogical that he exists and that there is no reason for him to exist so why should we say that he exists as it is so unlikely. Also if he exists why doesn't he make his presence known. We have not heard a single religious argument for his existence that is logical.
let me explain what actually an atheist believes. he believes that in the end he will become nothing, leaving his life as a joke which is later forgotten. okay, let me put it this way, you are doing good things in this world for the sake of your children, then at the end both you and your children die a meaningless death. okay then, so you decided to live for the sake of humanity, then in the end everybody will die a meaningless death. and in the ultimate end, this Earth will finally meet its end, destroying everything, human's history, pride, achievements, good deeds, and even this discussion to dust. how is that meaningful? even if we do good things for the sake of others, we won't be able to get any benefits from it after we die, because we are, err, nothing.
No you are explaining what really stupid theists believe atheists believe. We have no unified beliefs other than we do not believe god exists. We do not "all believe something". Please get this idea into you tiny little brain. And an atheist believes that there are 6 billion people on the planet and probably a lot more than that but anyway you need to do something that most other people can't do to be remembered. The pharaohs are still remembered and they were thousands of years ago. How hard is it to remember a century or so? And you children will still have children and so will their children so you will be continuing your species survival (probably). many scientists and inventors made the world a better place for everyone and the earth will survive for many billions of years. People don't care about stuff that far in the future they can only picture the near future. And the stuff will have meaning for those billions of years so it is not meaningless. And people feel good about doing it so it does benefit them. Everything people do benefits them even if it is only through feeling good.
*giggle*. so, as you mentioned earlier, you are fine doing good things because society said so. or your mom said so. or you said so. just as long as god dont say so. maybe they are your 'god' without you realizing it.
No, we are brought up believing in a set of morals and if we see that tehy benefit society we keep them. This makes things good or bad. And god says nothing it is just stupid goat herders who occasionally got things right. They are not our gods as they are not incredibly powerful they are just people. People do not need a god to worship.
well, when we are at the brink of our death, let's say we are barely clinging at a rope at the roof of a 40-storey abandoned building, and the rope is jusst about to break. what will one think? "oh, god, please save me!". "i hope a miracle will happen and i will be saved!".
Those are phrases ingrained into society and have lost all theological meaning. And you are basically saying that the only reason people believe in god is because they hope he exists or because they want him to. If asked they would not say that this has proven god exists.
i think they think like that because it's there in their holy book(s). Books are the source of belief of some major religions, for example, the koran for muslims and bible for christians, Hindu also has its own books. so, to counter their believes, one has to study the books. they are also unexplainable things in the holy book such as the koran mentioning about big bang. that's what i heard, nevertheless.
No, people just take a it of their holy book and say this talks about the big bang when it just says something about an explosion. They are easily explainable as a coincidence. If they knew that why doesn't the bible know that pi does not equal 3. And I take it that all christians believe in slavery, ****, murder, racism and exism as being good as it is all in the bible.
so, that just answers my question 'if we feel better doing bad things, than am i guilty if i do it?' well , i will feel better and helps the 'bad society'. yeah..
You should just not do bad things. Bad things are decided by society. If you do things that negatively affect other people they are bad. And all societies think they are good.
how does this not making any sense? from what i observe, atheists are often confused with their life, but guess what? they just ignore it. 'have you ever thought about death?' 'no, and i dont want to think about it'. your last statement in the second last paragraph proves this. you dont care about it. many think that they are coincidentally born, so just live this life than die. i think you are already thinking like i am, but you just ignore it, not wanting to delve any deeper.
ATHEISTS HAVE ONLY ONE UNIFIED BELIEFS AND IT IS NOT THIS! WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID THAT YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS! We have life so logically we should enjoy it. Death is unavoidable so why dwell on it.
this just further prove how confused you are. you do not believe in god and you think that everything that happened are science-related. yet, you believe in something mythical and not science-proven things such as the afterlife? you can believe the soul world but not god? now i am confused. can you tell me a little bit about this afterlife? i might learn something from you.
The after life is nothing. Your memories and everything that amde you are gone. This is what happens when you die.
