Sorry, but identical twins are formed when sometime very early in the pregnancy the group of cells splits into two. Meaning they start with exactly the same genetic code. It only changes because of hormones/other chemicals they receive during the pregnancy.
You just check it out and tell me if you find anything that's false K bud?
Sorry, but identical twins are formed when sometime very early in the pregnancy the group of cells splits into two.
Oh okay then, not only does that only pertain to twins, and my statement still stands with the birth of a single child, but by your logic, it's okay to kill one identical twin because it's simply a duplicate for a short period of time?
You just check it out and tell me if you find anything that's false K bud?
"First International Conference on Abortion, Washington B.C., October 1967." I only find that on pro-life sites, with more recent research saying something completely different than the quote.
Oh okay then, not only does that only pertain to twins, and my statement still stands with the birth of a single child, but by your logic, it's okay to kill one identical twin because it's simply a duplicate for a short period of time?
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The more recent research? I already did that, and mine had actually citations for where they got their information. It was also on a .edu and not on a .com.
So you're comparing a fetus under forty days of conception a dead thing? Not to mention, it doesn't matter if it's alive or not, because it turns into a living, breathing human.
Pretty much my stance on this is...it's a choice. You can consider it what you want, it doesn't change the fact that, yes, if you choose to get an abortion, it probably would have come to term and been born a healthy baby. But it's the mother's choice on whether she wants to be a mother or not, whether she's able to, or w/e the reason is. If you think it's wrong to do so, then don't, but forcing others to make such a life changing choice shouldn't concern you.
Which leads to the article...I hope this doesn't pass, for said reasons above.
Okay, so allow me to oppose abortion in a less fantical way.
The way I see it is, if you are stupid enough to become pregnant despite not wanting a kid then you have the responsibility to have, and take care of that child. You have to own up to your mistakes.
I do have exceptions.
1) Unfavourable circumstances (druggie parents) 2) Forced to have sex
Ever heard of a miscarriage? The chance of it being a miscarriage means there is only a potential for human life. Human life also doesn't start when the egg and sperm connect, in fact it doesn't start till sometime after that(something like 18 weeks I think).
ever heard of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome)? ever heard of heart attacks? ever heard of strokes? ever heard of cardiac fibrillation? ever heard of killer asthma attacks? ever heard of deadly allergic reactions?
your argument on there only being the possibility of life if there's a miscarriage is fallacious. There was life there... and it died. If life can abruptly end as quickly as the snap of a finger as a born individual... then it can happen just as quickly and idiopathicly in the womb. There's a difference in natural ..."oh it just didn't take... or oh it just wasn't healthy enough to make it" compared to an abortion. Its taking survival of the fittest and making it survival of whoever we want to live... which is kinda like eugenics. "Oh I don't want a baby with the rapists genes... what if he looks like him... what if he sounds like him..."... kinda killing it b/c of the genes it bears.
and stupid is as stupid does... that's what momma always said anyway (love that move (forrest gump ))
if you're drinking then you should be of legal age... and if your argument for an abortion is that you were drunk and you were underaged then you should be made to pay a fine and then pay your own money to have that abortion. ...b/c its the law. ..and if you're of age then you know what will happen when you drink too much. Its the same as the contraception argument. you know the risks. and you know even moreso how you act when you're under the influence. and if its your first time you shouldn't be stupid enough to get black out drunk. My 21st birthday was the first time I drank and I had a shot or two... plus a few beers and I never lost control of my faculties or my reasoning. there was what i thought to be a slight delay in my vision... and that was all. the only other thing I noticed was that the chronic pain in my shoulder that I had for a year at the time was greatly alleviated.... HOOORAY BEER!!!... no just kidding. I've only drank maybe 5 times in the last year. they know the risk they're taking before they take the first sip. My stance is the same on this subject.
define life... as far as I know there are 7 characteristics of life... and sentiency/brain function isn't one of them. plants are alive... yet they have no brain. so prior to development of the brain, the human is still alive. the difference in a vegetable body made vegetable from an accident or asphyxiation and a clump of cells w/o a brain is that the body most likely won't return to brain function if brain parts die... the clump of cells will. so the vegetable argument I saw as potentially surfacing doesn't work very well.
the clump of cells fits the bill for all 7. test its dna to find out what it is... it will be a human by dna analysis.
the only thing in your arsenal that you have is the "its my body" argument. just about anything else you throw out there isn't going to fly. ...and even then I'm sure that if I put some thought in it I could still rattle the cage a bit.
it isn't what I want b/c I'm against it... but I think that if its going to happen then the person should pay for it and then the fetus should instead of being disposed of as trash be taken to a lab to be studied. stem cells are such a controversial issue because of how we obtain them. If the woman/couple has to fork out money for the procedure instead of having tax payers pay for it then she/they might be a little more cautious the next time... and the worthless piece of trash that came out of her will have had some semblance of meaning and purpose to its existence.
and identical twins are unique to themselves. there are no organisms outside the womb with their code (unless....unless the doppelganger theory is true O_____O ). ...and you could call it a health condition maybe... either way its a natural process that produces 2 entities instead of one... 2 lives instead of 1. 2 humans instead of 1.
your argument on there only being the possibility of life if there's a miscarriage is fallacious. There was life there... and it died.
Once again someone missed the point of what I said. I have not once denied that life exists from the start, I have only denied that it is human life from the start.
the development of one organ trumps the others? with regard to how science sees it.... all thought is... is more chemical reactions. the entire body is nothing but chemical reactions. if its nothing but chemical reactions then when the first chemical reaction that occurs in the zygote with the newly gained 46 chromosomes is the beginning of the new human life. a brain without any other organs is a dead brain. a brain with out even a heart is a dead brain. a brain without lungs is a dead brain. you need kidneys... or you will die. ...and in a fetus/zygote... it is actively moving towards creating a brain.
why is it that if a husband murders his pregnant wife he'll get charged with two counts of murder(i remember something on the news once years ago... might be different nao)? one for her... and one for the unborn? What happens if a man doesn't want the baby and the woman does...and he then does the unthinkable and inflicts blunt force trauma on the unborn and makes it miscarry?... what is he charged with?(no seriously... i don't know...) lets make things consistent then shall we?
a condom.... or something similar. and if that was censored... it rhymes with condemn... I'm sure you can get it from there... my apologies for the double. I didn't see his statement until my last post was done.
