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valkery
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Well this is just ****ing stupid.

I pray to god that this does not go any farther. Please, I am begging the people of the US Senate, stop the madness before it goes any farther.

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valkery
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As I have done before, I turn to George Carlin to yell about abortion, in a manner that I wish I was allowed to do.

Sidenote: George Carlin swears like a sailor, don't watch if you are easily insulted.

Sonatavarius
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the ~ means approximately.

valkery
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46 chromosomes? So you're saying someone with Downs syndrome isn't human?


I personally don't view them as helpful to society and therefore waste that should be put out with the trash. AKA, shot in the head and left in a junkyard.

Sorry, I am that mean.
Nurvana
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The two aren't really comparable. It's more like a person who has every bodily function on a life support systems, entirely dependent on those systems with little or no brain function.


You're right; the disabled are even more helpless, for the unborn are simply depending upon their mothers until they are born, as far as system support goes.
Sonatavarius
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did anyone else just take his name and associate it w/ the movie about Project Valkery... which was about Hitler... (even tho the protagonists were against him it was still about hitler)... and thus synonymous w/ them thar Nat-z's.

special people can sometimes have amazingly artistic minds... if artists aren't helpful at all then we'd lose lots of people... but if they can be equivalent or even surpass regular 46'ers then effectively they're not different in what they bring to the table... they're just more childish.

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But what if you had downs syndrome. Would you rather have people kill you or find a cure.

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See, it isn't the people that have access to money and high standards of living that are having abortions, it is the people that can't raise a child with the salaries that they are currently making.
Another thing that I would like to point out is:
Poor people are likely to raise poor people, and not functioning members of society.
With those two points of evidence (poor people have abortions, and they raise poor adults) what is to say that allowing them to deny society of one more stone on it's ankle is a bad thing


The argumentation cannot be made. When adoption is a clearly safer and more suitable alternative then there is no need for an abortion in the first place.
valkery
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When adoption is a clearly safer and more suitable alternative then there is no need for an abortion in the first place.


Info:

The foster system is filled with children who are ready to be adopted. These children have an average age of 7 years old. They generally have some sort of special needs.


There were 51,000 kids waiting in CO alone in 2005


Link to info.

And if we go back to my former post, there are approx. 1.37 million abortions done each year.

So sure, lets put 1.37 million kids into the adoption system each year, and see what the **** happens.

Sounds like a great plan. They all have problems anyways, lets just add millions of kids into an already full program!

Don't you just love paying for kids to stay alive, even if they aren't yours!?
Nurvana
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Don't you just love paying for kids to stay alive, even if they aren't yours!?


No I don't, I'd much rather kill them, like stray dogs or... People with Down Syndrome hm?
valkery
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No I don't, I'd much rather kill them, like stray dogs or... People with Down Syndrome hm?


I thought you were anti-abortion. What are you saying? Have you switched sides?
Nurvana
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I thought you were anti-abortion. What are you saying? Have you switched sides?


It was a satirical reiteration of your views on abortion.
valkery
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It was a satirical reiteration of your views on abortion.


Not gettin your vibes man. You mean to tell me that even with all the evidence against abortion, you still would rather pay for people to stay alive?

Let me ask you this, are you a socialist?
valkery
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Planned_economy] I only ask that because it seems like you want to dictate where my tax money is going.

Sadly, the same argument can be made against me, because I want people to be funded and to know how to make proper abortions, rather than botch the procedure and kill both the mother and the child.

That makes me a socialist, because I dictate where your money is going.

Nurvana
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Not gettin your vibes man. You mean to tell me that even with all the evidence against abortion, you still would rather pay for people to stay alive?


I'm saying all your talk about adoption v abortion is silly.
Sonatavarius
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Don't you just love paying for kids to stay alive, even if they aren't yours!?


I see no moral quandry here... sounds like a charity I'll contribute to for the rest of muh life. thank you kind sir for the inspiration.
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