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Hell those of you think it will be just a big party with all your friends... BEWARE!!! For it is not a party but a punishment.the worst place to ever be for an eternity a punishment for those who have rejected Christ.[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD4ZoM2Qh10&feature=related]

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RainbowGoGangster3
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ok guys plz dont get all defencive, I am just commenting on the page and making my statement so plz dont get mad at me.

RainbowGoGangster3, to take hell seriously one has to believe in it. To believe in such a thing, I would need proof for it's existence. The bible is no proof, it's a book with stories in it. It tells about hell and such but that doesn't mean it has to be true.

Well I dont no how to give u proof right now HahiHa but i will pray for u, and hopefully U will see proof
Avorne
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Here are the basic problems with using the Bible/taking it as being true. As you can see - the Bible isn't the most reliable of books out there.

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i think the bottom line here is that the christian bible has the same chance to be the truth as any other bible or any other scientifical theory. the bible canot be considered as a reliable source because if it would then the jewish bible, the coran and any other book of "history" would be reliable. but all of those cant be the truth at the same time because they tell different things. if id tell everyone they will go to hell because they arent jewish it would have the same weight as you say about christians. why arent you converting to judaism then? because you have your belief. by not converting into a different religion that sais you will go to hell because you dont believe in it your taking a chance. and all those chances are equall because again, if the christian bible can be true then so does the koran and any other book. if you wont convert into a different religion that sais that then you are the same as anyone else in here

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i think the bottom line here is that the christian bible has the same chance to be the truth as any other bible or any other scientifical theory.


No. The bible(or any other hold books) are not even close to being scientific theories.
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you didnt get my point. the most important thing in my comment is comparing the different religios.

also when talking about the chances think about it this way:

the evolution or any other scientifical theory is made of so many coinicidences (XD) so the chances of all those things to happento lead to where and what we are today is almost imposibble. while the only thing that has a low chance in religions is gods existance. if only that happens then all the other things have 100% chance to happen.

so if you look at it this way religios actually has a better chance to be the truth.

anyway that is just MY theory. im not stating what i believe in. im stating what can happen. in the end the chances dont matter because as long as there is the smallest chance that theory/religion can be true. my point is that we will never know anything beyond our lives or time periods (not counting when we die and if we go to hell/heaven of course)

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the evolution or any other scientifical theory is made of so many coinicidences (XD) so the chances of all those things to happento lead to where and what we are today is almost imposibble.


Do you know what this is?

http://tinyfarmblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/spr08_puddle_gauge.jpg

Ill give you a hint. It is a puddle, and proof of faeries. What are the chances that this puddle is just randomly like it is? Look, the water fits into it perfectly. So therefore, since something like this couldn't possibly be random, it must mean that faeries exist and form every puddle.

so if you look at it this way religios actually has a better chance to be the truth.


So by that math, we are all turtles, since that is more likely than this world is true, do to the fact that for it to be true, we all only need to be turtles, and for it to be wrong than everything else must exist. Therefor, we are all turtles by your logic.

anyway that is just MY theory. im not stating what i believe in. im stating what can happen. in the end the chances dont matter because as long as there is the smallest chance that theory/religion can be true. my point is that we will never know anything beyond our lives or time periods (not counting when we die and if we go to hell/heaven of course)


But the thing is there is no chance that your hypothesis/religion could be true, no more than the turtle theory I just made up off the top of my head. It has no chance in a metaphorical hell of existing at all.
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the evolution or any other scientifical theory is made of so many coinicidences (XD) so the chances of all those things to happento lead to where and what we are today is almost imposibble. while the only thing that has a low chance in religions is gods existance. if only that happens then all the other things have 100% chance to happen.

so if you look at it this way religios actually has a better chance to be the truth.


http://images.gamers.fr/jeux/diversasskicker2/facepalm.jpg

You speak of the evolution as if it has been set up in one piece and then everybody looked for evidence for it. Seriously? Of course the odds that our world, like it is now, are extremely low for it to happen. What you failed to see is that it obviously did happen, and we are solely documenting how it did happen, by finding out how things work. We are working backwards on the events that happened, we didn't imagine some weird theory and try to find proofs.

This basically makes your argument void.
Kasic
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Lmao Hahiha, i've never seen that version of a facepalm de-motivational picture. I must say, it's one of my favorites now.

Pretty much we have this...

Either the universe follows specific laws that ultimately led to the creation of itself, and life came about through abiogenesis, which evolved over time, or...

We have magic sky fairy that created everything.

I don't know about you, but one of those sounds quite ridiculous...

dair5
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So... God couldn't have started that? Made up the laws, started the big bang, ect...

314d1
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So... God couldn't have started that? Made up the laws, started the big bang, ect...


Then wouldn't he be unneeded? As Mage would say, it would be a little like taking credit for opening a revolving door.
Kasic
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So... God couldn't have started that? Made up the laws, started the big bang, ect...


This is what deism is, the only way there could be any sort of divine being. He created all that the universe needed to self run, let it happen, and left/did not interfere. (I think)

In any case, there's no way that what's in the bible is how the world came to be, it's so riddled with false claims it makes swiss cheese look like a valid contruction material.
dair5
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Oh I see what you're saying. But someone still needs to run heaven, the angels, hell, it doesn't nessisarily follow the rules.

314d1
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Oh I see what you're saying. But someone still needs to run heaven, the angels, hell, it doesn't nessisarily follow the rules.


Those things don't exist, so no it doesn't.
Kasic
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But someone still needs to run heaven


If there's a heaven. You can't say that this idea couldn't have come from us, as no one wants to die and it's a very appealing thought to believe you will "live" forever after you die in a place of eternal paradise.

the angels


Again, if there's angels.
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Well I guess we'll never know.

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