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EmperorPalpatine
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Do you believe the US government is doing enough to defend the border to Mexico? Support your reasoning. What should be done? What shouldn't be done?

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TheDoctor7
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@EmperorPalpatine:

Basically I don't see what's wrong with letting immigrants come in.

EmperorPalpatine
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@TheDoctor7
If they come in the right way then it's fine. It's the ones that sneak over that become a problem. Some are smuggling arms and drugs. But the ones that just want a better life should follow the correct procedure.

EmperorPalpatine
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As for the argument of building a big wall at the border,
"A city is well-fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick." -Lycurgis of Sparta.

indie55
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Also the fact that it would be a very large wall and would cost a lot of money.

EmperorPalpatine
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A wall of stone/cement/brick would create a few jobs for a while, but all it would take is a little bit of C4/dynamite and there would be a hole in it. I think just hiring National Guard troops or volunteers to do it would be much more effective.

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the wall would have to be so massive that there would be no realistic way of monitoring it and maintaining it, people would always manage to make holes and slip through undedected

CommanderDude7
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Could just dig a giant ditch, fill it with water and just stock it with mines.

EmperorPalpatine
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A giant ditch is about as effective as a wall. Build a bridge or a ladder and you're in.

indie55
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A giant ditch is about as effective as a wall. Build a bridge or a ladder and you're in.

I think you missed the...
and just stock it with mines.

...part of the sentence.
EmperorPalpatine
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Would it matter what's in the moat if you can go over it?

indie55
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Would it matter what's in the moat if you can go over it?

It wouldn't if you could outrun an explosion.
CommanderDude7
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Would it matter what's in the moat if you can go over it?

Id imagine the moat would be bigger than what you are thinking. Probably 3/4 of a mile wide.
EmperorPalpatine
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Ah... that might work. But maybe they'd just release some fish into it so they swim into the mines. Wouldn't that moat still cost money, only creating temporary jobs instead of perminate border defense ones?

CommanderDude7
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Ah... that might work. But maybe they'd just release some fish into it so they swim into the mines. Wouldn't that moat still cost money, only creating temporary jobs instead of perminate border defense ones?

Well permanent jobs weren't the point really. Though we could have bridges across it monitored by guards for legal traffic. The fish could be a problem but we could mine the shore as well.
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Mines don't care who they kill. What if some American kid was playing near the Rio Grande when their kite started to fly off? They go too far south and BOOM! The criticism would never end. We need people to judge threats, not mines.

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