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VisionsGaming
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so is that guy gonna keep changing the doomsday date?

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VisionsGaming
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I have to listen to you because even though your 11, that was a very good description about it.

314d1
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Woops, missed the second paragraph.

Also, i hate how people see all of these priests and such "corrupted" by the devil and sin, and what they do and they assume all christians are like that


I assume that you are insane. Look at yourself. You are calling a guy who believes the exact same thing as you, aside from the fact that he puts a date on it, and calling him crazy. Do you think it is crazy that a several headed beast is going to kill things? No. Do you think it is crazy that your god will kill everyone? No. Do you think it is crazy when he puts a date on it? Yes. Messed up and insane.

People well say that a relgion with people like that isnt a good one.


With people who actually put a date on there insane prophesies?

Imagine this is like having two psychics.

Pyc1: You will meet the love of your life
Pyc2: You will meet the love of your life next week.
Pyc1: ARE YOU CRAZY! YOUR NOT A TRUE PSYCHIC (TM)YOUR GIVING THE REST OF US PSYCHICS A BAD NAME! Now everyone is going to think that all psychics are just stating bs because of what you said!

See how that is crazy?

So please dont rant on how what i said wasnt true at all and that the world really ends when the sun expands.


So you don't want us to state the truth?

Because think about it, do you really think with the overflowing population, constant warfare, and all of these natural and man-made disasters, that earth really will last that long? Really?!?! Lastly, im sorry for that giant post of lots of stuff not retaining to "The Rapture".


Ware fare, an overflowing population, and disasters won't end the human race, let alone the world. We couldn't do it if we tried, a nuclear war even has a chance of having plenty of survivors. It will take an advanced interplanetary weapon or the expansion of the sun to destroy it, nothing less than a death star would end the world.
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A non-true christian is some one who believes they are christian, but they were believeing the devil was their "jesus". I was saying i was a true christian because i dont randomly take church money to buy a new car, dont steal kids and **** them then kill them, or cheat on my wife.(although, obviously, i dont have a wife) The true christians i refered to in my description are the people that believe they are christian and actully are, and are aware that the anti-christ isnt christ. I cant name passages and the likes, because i am forced to read "childrens bibles" and "teen bibles" and the likes, until i am older. I never said the end of days will happen any day know, i just stated that it isnt going to happen in billions of years, its going to happen before the sun expandes and consumes earth. Please explain what you mean by the anti-christ being a "rider". I stated that he would make people believe in christianity, but a falseified version as him being their son of god. And where are you getting that i mean that God will destroy earth with swords from his mouth, falling stars, and fire??? And please, paste here the passages that say that the end will come in "insert biblical time's dude's name here". Also, i didnt come here to argue that this and that are true, and how stupied i am, and how this was stupied this is and how this isnt stupied. I just came to post what i believe about the rapture.

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And, as i was ninja'd that you posted while i was posting, read my last couple of phrases and you will understand i dont want to take the time to awnser all the questions of how wrong i am, and how you were stupied to do this, and how idiotic you are that you could think that, and that you must be insane to believe this.

VisionsGaming
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I know what you mean.

314d1
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A non-true christian is some one who believes they are christian, but they were believeing the devil was their "jesus"


So you are saying everyone who doesn't believe exactly like you is lead by "The Devil"?

I was saying i was a true christian because i dont randomly take church money to buy a new car, dont steal kids and **** them then kill them, or cheat on my wife.(although, obviously, i dont have a wife) The true christians i refered to in my description are the people that believe they are christian and actully are, and are aware that the anti-christ isnt christ


Oh. So you are saying "True Christian" as "True Scotsman", a popular fallacy with religion. No true Scotsman would do that.

I cant name passages and the likes, because i am forced to read "childrens bibles" and "teen bibles" and the likes, until i am older


You should try mine, the Skeptics Annotated Bible. It has classifications for things like "Cruelty" and "Injustices". But why wouldn't those bibles have the same things in it, if they are simply KJV/NIV/whatever version they are? And wait, are you saying that you haven't actually read what what you feel is an omnipotent being felt important enough to tell you instead of all the useful things I would.

never said the end of days will happen any day know, i just stated that it isnt going to happen in billions of years, its going to happen before the sun expandes and consumes earth.


So you are guessing that some point in the future in the next several billion years that this will happen? How does this make you less crazy than Harold Camping?

Please explain what you mean by the anti-christ being a "rider"


The four riders of the apocalypse, popular stories about the rapture have them. You know, War, Death, Pestilence, and Plague. They are commonly put as personifications for the horrible things Yahweh (The name of your god) will do during the rapture.

Sometimes "Death" is replaced by the "Anti-christ" as you call it, however even in that situation he never turns anyone to Christianity in the fantasy stories, he is usually turning them to himself as a god.

And where are you getting that i mean that God will destroy earth with swords from his mouth, falling stars, and fire???


If you read the Bible, you would know.

Revelations 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

A description of Jesus getting ready to kill people with a sword from his mouth. Creepy ah? (KJV if you wish to check)

Killing people who touch "God's Witnesses" with fire.

11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

And a falling star (Doesn't actually kill anyone, but is pretty pathetic)

8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

All from revelations, KJV. You can check it out online if you want.

And please, paste here the passages that say that the end will come in "insert biblical time's dude's name here


Of course. It was John.

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And of course the one I was referring to, 1/3 your god and the world's first zombie, Jesus.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

Mark 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Want more? I may be able to find some.

Also, i didnt come here to argue that this and that are true, and how stupied i am, and how this was stupied this is and how this isnt stupied. I just came to post what i believe about the rapture.


Stupied? Did you misspell on purpose?

Aside from that, what you believe isn't based on anything, so why do you believe it?

And, as i was ninja'd that you posted while i was posting, read my last couple of phrases and you will understand i dont want to take the time to awnser all the questions of how wrong i am, and how you were stupied to do this, and how idiotic you are that you could think that, and that you must be insane to believe this.


Well if you didn't have ideas that are so wrong, "stupied", insane, idiotic, and baseless, then I wouldn't have to point it out.
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So please dont rant on how what i said wasnt true at all and that the world really ends when the sun expands. Because think about it, do you really think with the overflowing population, constant warfare, and all of these natural and man-made disasters, that earth really will last that long? Really?!?! Lastly, im sorry for that giant post of lots of stuff not retaining to "The Rapture".

What you said is your opinion, following your religion. If that's what you think, that's fine. But don't go around and tell people this is the only truth, because it isn't.
Also, of course the sun will engulf earth, and of course earth will last that long. We humans may not last so long, that's true; but earth and nature will endure our era and live on, no problem. Whether there'll be a rapture or not is up to individual belief, but there ain't no proof for it, whereas the sun expanding is a conclusion of observations.
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Basicly, they disappear and find themselves in Heaven as if they had died. The anti-christ, being as he has "a way with words" will make up an excuse for all of the christians disappearing. After the anti-christ is in power, anyone who wasnt christian, doesnt have the mark of the beast on, and is now a true christian, not a supposed christian worshiping the anti-christ, has to hide out and survive in this terrible time. Eventully, the real jesus(christ) will come down and there will be trumpets playing. He will take all of the new true christian up in heaven, and the devil, anitchrist, and every other non-true-christian will be locked into hell for eternity.


As stated Christians get magically whisked away and the rest go to hell. Putting a date on these events isn't the crazy part, believing in something that clearly relies on magic is what makes them crazy.

I was saying i was a true christian because i dont randomly take church money to buy a new car, dont steal kids and **** them then kill them, or cheat on my wife.


You do realize you don't have to be Christian to be a decent person and not do things like cheat or steal.

I cant name passages and the likes, because i am forced to read "childrens bibles" and "teen bibles" and the likes, until i am older.


I find it interesting your believing something your not even allowed to read for yourself.
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when did this turn into an argument

MageGrayWolf
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when did this turn into an argument


When someone with an opposing view came by. That sort of thing tends to happen.
VisionsGaming
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Oh ok and yea that does happen a lot.

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Then the earth and heaven are &quoturified" from evil, and come together into a new world where god and angles and humans all live in peace, free from sin, in paradise.


1. People have free will. Sin is a consequence of free will. No human is without sin.
2. Heaven is free fom sin.

=> People don't have free will in heaven?
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i think its hilarious how the man who started the rapture completely ran away after it wasnt true.

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I wonder what he hopes to gain by doing this; it's obviously not going to happen (he's changed the date like what, three times now?).

The fact isn't only limited to this; all of the other doomsday predictions are false. In 2000, the world's end was predicted. Did it happen? Obviously not. All of these doomsday predictors should just change their occupations. Seriously, it's to the point that the stupidity is annoying me.

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The guy who's done this 'rediction' has done it before, a couple times from what I hear.

I can't imagine the logical processes of a fanatics brain when their 'leader' is wrong so many times. Do they just keep following him? WHY is this guy famous.

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