I have done this type of thread on other gaming sites, but none of them wanted to take a stance on this issue. Let me try it here, where civilized people are.
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Now for the actual discussion.
We see it every-so-often. Another person has been bullied so badly that he/she has committed suicide. What were they being bullied about? They were being told they were gay.<-I hope this isn't going to be starred out. Nothing wrong with that word.
Why are we so afraid of being gay? When you go back in time, you can easily see that we have been afraid of many different things.
1500's---We were afraid of Jews.
The beginning of black slavery in America-1970's-- That certain word was used on African Americans.
1950's---If you were called a communist, you had no future.
2000-present--- If you're gay, you're a target.
This isn't a new trend. But why do we demonize others?! Aren't we human beings? Aren't we smarter than this!?
Until we learn that we are all EQUAL, nothing will change. I would like to hope that we could start here.
No matter what religion or political stance you have, remember one VERY important rule: Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.
Please comment as to why you think we demonize people. Also, please give out ideas on how we can shut down people who hate others (examples above).
Who says anything about certain things being trivial?
You consider the death of a child trivial? Pfft.
Yes. Especially a child that wishes for you to live. Go ahead and be depressed about it, but suicide will solve nothing at all. In fact, it would put your partner in an even worse position making it not only an act of cowardice but downright betrayal to the wishes of your husband/wife and late child. You can't just run away because you are weak.
In fact, it would put your partner in an even worse position making it not only an act of cowardice but downright betrayal to the wishes of your husband/wife and late child
So the person doesn't have a partner, and the baby is too young to know what life is, you have literally no friends, no family, no acquaintances, no co-workers..
So the person doesn't have a partner, and the baby is too young to know what life is, you have literally no friends, no family, no acquaintances, no co-workers..
How does this go against their wishes?
If you have a child, you probably have/had some form of partner who is sharing the same situation as you, and likely doesn't want you to die. Even if the child was unable to speak, wouldn't it still want it's parents to live when it grew up? Just say "Better to have known love and lost then to never have loved at all" and be sad about it for a while. If you are really desperate, a few shots of whiskey every once and a while or even antidepressants if you are depressed, but if you kill yourselves under those circumstances you are a coward. A downright coward.
There weren't many things you could do in the past for people who were down on their luck, but now there's an abundance of help clinics and people who will reach out to you if you will accept it.
If you have a child, you probably have/had some form of partner who is sharing the same situation as you, and likely doesn't want you to die.
Hypothetically, she died.
Even if the child was unable to speak, wouldn't it still want it's parents to live when it grew up?
Hypothetically, the baby died.
You're left with no one. You have no immediate or distant family. You have no friends, no job therefore no coworkers. You're too old to procreate. You have no house, no money, no chance of finding a new partner.
This thread is about awareness of people put down by being different and not being accepted and feeling inferrior, not just a general suicide discussion.
And, assuming she does not hate you, she would wish for you to live correct? It would be going against her wishes for you to live a long and happy life if you just ended it.
Hypothetically, the baby died.
You're left with no one. You have no immediate or distant family. You have no friends, no job therefore no coworkers. You're too old to procreate. You have no house, no money, no chance of finding a new partner.
You have a baby, but you are to old to have babies. Interesting situation I would say. But besides that, so what? Go get a job, if you can. If you can't, go to one of those places that help the homeless. Killing yourself because you can't take something is an act of cowardice.
And, assuming she does not hate you, she would wish for you to live correct? It would be going against her wishes for you to live a long and happy life if you just ended it.
Oh no, she hates you.
You have a baby, but you are to old to have babies. Interesting situation I would say
This is years after you had the baby, which died - and you are left with the pain and guilt.
Are you telling me you can't understand how situations like that can eat away at a person, that due to their circumstances and life situations they do not know there are better options?
Want me to throw sexual abuse into the mix so you can use your argument of "trivial" problems.
Hated you. She is now dead. But in that case, why not live just to spite her?
This is years after you had the baby, which died - and you are left with the pain and guilt.
Then it is about time to move on, not letting this one unfortunate event control your entire life.
Are you telling me you can't understand how situations like that can eat away at a person, that due to their circumstances and life situations they do not know there are better options?
Any option is better than suicide, are you telling me that running away is better than just dealing with it? Any problem can be faced, and those that can't probably would kill you anyway. Are you telling me if your not man enough to take the situation you should just run away from it?
I don't like gay people because there was a gay kid in my grade who was gay for me and he followed me everywhere I went, and he didn't realize I hated him and I also told him I hated him. Yet he continued to follow me.
I don't demonize gays. I just don't like gayness. If you're asking whether I think they should be killed/banned/whatever, then my answer is no. I'm not someone in the 1500's that'll hop into a hate gay/jew/etc. riot. As to what rights they want, I'm not so sure if that makes it demonizing. I mean, I don't feel any more powerful over a gay person if they can't get married.
Also, no, I don't think we're any better than that. I have low regard for the entire human race as a whole
I don't like gay people because there was a gay kid in my grade who was gay for me and he followed me everywhere I went, and he didn't realize I hated him and I also told him I hated him. Yet he continued to follow me.
Then that seems like an issue between you and the person, not you and every other gay person. So because of that one person that followed you around, you decide you dislike the entire gay people as a whole?
I don't like gay people because there was a gay kid in my grade who was gay for me and he followed me everywhere I went, and he didn't realize I hated him and I also told him I hated him. Yet he continued to follow me.
i dont like AMERICANS because there was an AMERICAN girl in my grade who liked me and she followed me everywhere i went, and she didnt realize i hated her and i also told her i hated her. yet she continued to follow me.
sounds stupid and pointless right? exactly like what you said. you think i should hate a group of people if one person did something?
that kid was probably a weird stalker and trust me, many different people are like that.
if people are taught that something is wrong even if they arent told they should hate people who do that they will at least dont like them. there arent many people who can be mature enough to try and understand that what their parents taught them might be wrong.
people like to demonize any group of people who are different. that kid might even suicided (kid from first post lol) because he was actually gay and was afraid to tell anyone and when he thought they found out he probably just couldnt bare it. if no one helped him in school and if his parents didnt accept him i can understand why he did it. he had no one in his life who wanted him and everybody hated him. that is probably the worst life any person can have. im sure that a streight person wouldnt suicide just because he someone called him gay. its actually a pretty common thing to just calll someone you dont like. people just use this word like a curse without even thinking if its even logical to use in that situation so that is also a reason why people think its bad.
