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EmperorPalpatine
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Is it ever acceptable?
Is it cowardice or a cry for help?
Some cultures accepted it as something of honor (namely the Japanese military in WWII). Others condemned it (namely the ancient Spartans).
Share your thoughts and opinions here.

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SwordGamesxD
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How so? In some situations, it's quite an honourable thing to do, and in others it can end a whole lot of pain and suffering.



At least in my religion, yes, is the worst thing you can do.
frodo86
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At least in my religion, yes, is the worst thing you can do.


And what is your religion? just curious.
Avorne
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And why should your religion have any bearing on reality when, to be honest, almost every religion is grounded firmly outside of it?

frodo86
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And why should your religion have any bearing on reality when, to be honest, almost every religion is grounded firmly outside of it?


Don't go beating up on this person's religion. You should be ashamed of yourself.

And you just admitted that your religion is not at all realilistic.
Avorne
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Don't go beating up on this person's religion. You should be ashamed of yourself.


I'm not ashamed for a single second - I don't think religious beliefs should factor into this because, quite clearly, any religion that wants to survive and propagate itself is going to promote the idea that followers shouldn't die unless it's in the process of converting other people/killing heretics and heathens.

And you just admitted that your religion is not at all realilistic.

1, Realistic* Lrn2spel
2. I'm not religious, I'm an Atheist, so there.
killersup10
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Don't go beating up on this person's religion. You should be ashamed of yourself.
And you just admitted that your religion is not at all realilistic.


he has a good point.and he never said that his religion was not realistic,he said that many are not realistic. why should he be ashamed of himself??? he gave his opinion.you gave your opinion,does that mean that killersup's gonna tell you that you should be ashamed of yourself?no.
frodo86
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I'm not ashamed for a single second - I don't think religious beliefs should factor into this because, quite clearly, any religion that wants to survive and propagate itself is going to promote the idea that followers shouldn't die unless it's in the process of converting other people/killing heretics and heathens.


Well, at least in Christianity, suicide is considered a sin because you're ending your life without enduring the neccesary pain that comes out of living. They made it so that if people wanted to commit suicide to escape having to endure life, they would not do so because they would go straight to Hell.

1, Realistic* Lrn2spel


You tell me to spell correctly, then put a serious spelling error in your writing directly afterwards? What a hypocrite.

I'm not religious, I'm an Atheist, so there.


Atheists are the most religious people I know. Everything you accuse reiligious people of doing, you do yourself. The only true non-religion is Agnoctisim, which I am a member of.
frodo86
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he has a good point.and he never said that his religion was not realistic,he said that many are not realistic. why should he be ashamed of himself??? he gave his opinion.you gave your opinion,does that mean that killersup's gonna tell you that you should be ashamed of yourself?no.


He sold his opinion as a fact by saying, "quite honestly".
He should keep his opinion as an opinion.
Avorne
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Well, at least in Christianity, suicide is considered a sin because you're ending your life without enduring the neccesary pain that comes out of living. They made it so that if people wanted to commit suicide to escape having to endure life, they would not do so because they would go straight to Hell.


Actually, the idea of suicide being a sin g=PA16&dq=early+christian+suicides+augustine&ei=75SpSb_FAZW6M6H_zbsI#v=onepage&q=early%20christian%20suicides%20augustine&f=false">probably wasn't added until a fair while after Christianity was established, because what else do you expect when you tell your followers that they can live forever in eternal bliss?

You tell me to spell correctly, then put a serious spelling error in your writing directly afterwards? What a hypocrite.

You're new to the internet, aren't you?

Atheists are the most religious people I know. Everything you accuse reiligious people of doing, you do yourself. The only true non-religion is Agnoctisim, which I am a member of.

How so? And I never stated whether I was a strong or a weak atheist - merely that I was an Atheist. Besides that - I trust you know the meaning of the word atheism, right?

A - without/none
Theism - belief in god or gods.
Avorne
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He sold his opinion as a fact by saying, "quite honestly".


If I'd have been stating it as fact then I would have said 'in fact' - 'quite honestly' relates much more closely to ones own opinion and the stating of such (one could consider it synonymous with 'in my honest opnion' than it is with 'in fact' or 'factually speaking'.
killersup10
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I'm not religious, I'm an Atheist, so there.
Atheists are the most religious people I know. Everything you accuse reiligious people of doing, you do yourself. The only true non-religion is Agnoctisim, which I am a member of.


yeah, that figures.

1, Realistic* Lrn2spel
You tell me to spell correctly, then put a serious spelling error in your writing directly afterwards? What a hypocrite


you can apparently not see what he was trying to do,he was trying to make a funny.see,haha.also suddenly you are accusing people of being hypocrites....that is definelty gonna help you.

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he has a good point.and he never said that his religion was not realistic,he said that many are not realistic. why should he be ashamed of himself??? he gave his opinion.you gave your opinion,does that mean that killersup's gonna tell you that you should be ashamed of yourself?no.
He sold his opinion as a fact by saying, "quite honestly".
He should keep his opinion as an opinion.


yeah,"quite honestly" you take things way to direct.people say "quite honestly" when they are honestly trying to say their opinion.
frodo86
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If I'd have been stating it as fact then I would have said 'in fact' - 'quite honestly' relates much more closely to ones own opinion and the stating of such (one could consider it synonymous with 'in my honest opnion' than it is with 'in fact' or 'factually speaking'.

people say "quite honestly" when they are honestly trying to say their opinion.


I did not know that! Thank you for clearing things up for me. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
killersup10
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If I'd have been stating it as fact then I would have said 'in fact' - 'quite honestly' relates much more closely to ones own opinion and the stating of such (one could consider it synonymous with 'in my honest opnion' than it is with 'in fact' or 'factually speaking'.
people say "quite honestly" when they are honestly trying to say their opinion.
I did not know that! Thank you for clearing things up for me. I apologize for the misunderstanding.



well....that worked out really.....well.....hmmm.killersup just noticed how off topic killersup,frodo, and arvore was....better get back on topic...hmmm.
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The only true non-religion is Agnoctisim, which I am a member of.


sooo if agnoctism is a religion...
where is the church (or other house thingy to pray in)?
where do you "sign up"? or can anyone be a member whitout even knowing what it means by just saying "i am a member of".

tbh, you made my day xD.
frodo86
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sooo if agnoctism is a religion...


Agnoctism is not a religion.

where is the church (or other house thingy to pray in)?


There is none. There is no god in Agnocticism, so there is no praying.

where do you "sign up"? or can anyone be a member whitout even knowing what it means by just saying "i am a member of".


Yes, you can, but it would be best to know what it is first.

tbh, you made my day xD.


Good for you.
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