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elshobokshy
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I want everybody's opinion about the ongoing events in the Arab World.
I mean the ongoing revolutions.

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elshobokshy
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What I am trying to say is that sometimes when people countries make actions like picking allies, the question of what matters more religion or nationality can make the difference.

I'll say it again, it doesn't matter where are you from, Islam is Islam, if Muslims did what we were told to do this world would be a better place but some of are going nuts and you can't blame all of us cuz of that like what Jefferysinspiration just said.
elshobokshy
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Most people are standbyers and want little to do with politics, just want to stay home and take care of their family.

That's what I imagine my future as, I hate something called politics and racism and all of that **** I just want to grow up, get married and take care of my family.

PS: We changed the subject from talking about the Arabic Revolution to Religion
GoblinD
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Not blaming all of you. But this isnt even what I was going for.
What I said is that for people who have less of a choice to chose B, they would chose A or C instead. In Afghanistan's case A is much more likely. They don't exactly have a long history to claim you know, so Islam is what's left.
And I'm not saying Islam is a bad thing but it certainly has a few bad Imams running things.

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That's what I imagine my future as, I hate something called politics and racism and all of that **** I just want to grow up, get married and take care of my family.

Exactly, now here's the tricky part.
Say you live in France in 20-30 years and Muslims made the majority. You would probably not care too much about it but some people will, and about 5% of you're community would start blowing things up and try to take over the country for Islam. Would you appose them or would you standby?
You see that's why French people may want all the Muslims out, because as a community as a whole they can do more harm then good. That's why they have to take the Muslim community as a whole if they want to be sure to avoid this senerio because its impossible to just kick the radicals out of France.
This is only an example, my point is sometimes communities need to be taken as a whole, even if the enemy is just a minority. Yes, good people get hurt but sometimes that inevitable (This is only an example, I think it may happen that Muslims will want to take France but it won't necessarily happen and it can be prevented).

Yea were getting a bit offtopic thou.


I would also like to ask: What does the Egyptian military do against what they promised and what do you think about Syria?
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You see that's why French people may want all the Muslims out, because as a community as a whole they can do more harm then good


Or the fact al qaeda threatened them with an attack to match 9/11.
elshobokshy
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You would probably not care too much about it but some people will, and about 5% of you're community would start blowing things up and try to take over the country for Islam. Would you appose them or would you standby?

I wont really care as long as I'm living peacefully, we as Muslims we don't care if we die in a battle, so if someone tries to harm and all of the billions of Muslims go in the battle it will be a massacre if you know what I mean But let's stop that subject please.

What does the Egyptian military do against what they promised

They said they were going to protect the revolution but it seems it's all a plan made by Mubarak, cuz till now the army doesn't want to judge Mubarak or any of his men...

what do you think about Syria?

Nothing to say actually.. He's a dictator and a criminal..
GoblinD
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Yea but do you think the Syrian Muslim brotherhood could take things over and what is you're opinion about the silence of the international community about the massacres in Syria.

elshobokshy
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Yea but do you think the Syrian Muslim brotherhood could take things over and what is you're opinion about the silence of the international community about the massacres in Syria.

They wont be able to take over, but in my opinion they should!
And I think the international community is silent cuz of personal reasons...

PS: Are you really 16 years old ? :P
GoblinD
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Why would you think that?

elshobokshy
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Why would you think that?

One single reason, Israel's safety..
GoblinD
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If you mean about the army then people only join the army at ages 18+, usually 18 or 19. I'm 18, yea that means you won't be seeing me around here for long.

elshobokshy
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I'm still 16 :P

partydevil
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Sorry but i doubt Muslims in Afghanistan think as rational as you do in Egypt about the West.

because the usa is bombing the place since 2001.
ofcours the afghanie people get mad when you destroy their country for 10 years already.

the reason why muslim extremists hate the west (usely they only mean usa (ive been talking whit them befor)) is because the usa kills their friends and family. and for that they are willing to get revenge on the west (usa) by joining a terrorist orgeniezation.
the war on terrorism back-fired. their are more terrorists today then during 9/11.

partydevil
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Sorry but i doubt Muslims in Afghanistan think as rational as you do in Egypt about the West.


it was a quote not my words =)
GoblinD
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It was no backfire. Their may be more terrorists today then in 9/11 but that can also be a result of average over 6 children per woman in Afghanistan.
Before 9/11 terrorists could do s''t like 9/11, now they can't. Points for that.

From my conversations with such people I heard they don't only hate USA, they also have bad feelings about Britain, France (colonies, Iraq and Afghanistan you know), Israel... And they often confuse Western countries as a single entity and by doing so include all non Eastern Europe (and sometimes Israel).

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