ForumsWEPRCannibas (Marijuana) Legalization? why or why not?

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novacek96
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id like to know where people stand on the legalization of weed. i personally am for it because it could greatly help the economy, plus hemp makes an extremely strong and long lasting paper so we wouldnt have to cut down trees. there are other reasons but i would like to know everyones opinion on WHY or WHY NOT we should legalize it.

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NoNameC68
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And I never said cigarettes or alcohol (In excess) were good to begin with. I think cigarettes should be illegal, and people should be urged not to get wasted with alcohol.


Good for YOU. Live YOUR OWN LIFE free of alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana.

Don't force your morals on everyone else.
partydevil
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@ shift4101

i hope for you that you wont be brainwashed like that for your entire life. i hope for you that you will sometime see how stupid your statement about this matter is. there is so much wrong in that comment and it's full whit lies.

shift4101
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Like pre-marital sex?


Like smoking weed

so does the rest of the world


[sarcasm]In high school we learn this is a viable excuse.[/sarcasm]

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here. I'm an atheist, so am I included?


It's not only about religion. I don't know what you believe.

[quote]Any drug that people use to alter their perception of reality wastes time and money.


Video games are a waste of time and money. Most TV programs are a waste of time and money. Porn is a waste of time, money, and semen. Art is a waste of paper. Church is a waste of time, money, and resources. Race cars are a waste of materials and gasoline. Sports are a waste of time and money. Fried foods are unhealthy and therefore a waste of money.[/quote]

Ok? People as a whole can and do agree to everything you just said as being true.

You are right! I shouldn't do or enjoy any of those things listed above. Except I'm not perfect. I have to succumb to something, though I try not to. Except weed is something on that list you can obviously identify and purge in real life. There is no temptation to smoke weed, unless of course you made it a habit in your daily life.

1. We have the right to do whatever we want with our own money. If you don't like how I spend my money, then too bad. It's my money that I WORKED for. Don't tell me how to spend my money.


Right. As long as someone wants to sell it, you have the right to buy it. Capitalism 101.

If marijuana is kept illegal because it's a "waste" of money, then we should also ban video games, porn, and everything else I listed previously.


Just think how productive our days will become.

2. If it's "selfish" to buy marijuana so that one can make themselves happy, then it must also be "selfish" for them to buy movie tickets, football tickets, video games, and so on.


And so forth. Until everyone is given the same opportunity as we are to blow all of our money away on worthless entertainment, we are all in a situation where we have bad priorities.

What every happened to the pursuit of happiness?


The pursuit of happiness is intended to mean the ability to move up in the world, free of oppression. No one is restricted to a certain class/job/lifestyle because of where they come from.

I don't think the founding fathers had getting blazed in mind when they wrote it.

Selfish? For spending money on ourselves? God forbid I use my money to have a good time.


Your an atheist. You really shouldn't use that expression, it gives people bad signals.

Go for it. Fill yourself up on short term satisfaction. It just doesn't call for very many memories when your older.

Guilty? That one is just hilarious. Guilty of what? Guilty of smoking marijuana? If marijuana wasn't a crime, then no one would be guilty. Problem solved.


Well, only the people who's moral background only extends to what is legal and illegal. I think I covered that.

Good for YOU. Live YOUR OWN LIFE free of alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana.

Don't force your morals on everyone else.


I'm not forcing my morals on someone else. I'm expressing my ****ing opinion. I didn't say "You should think this, cause I think I'm right." In fact, that's what you're doing. I said something. You responded. I responded. You responded. And now (apparently) I'm forcing my views upon you. Don't turn this discussion into an argument.

i hope for you that you wont be brainwashed like that for your entire life. i hope for you that you will sometime see how stupid your statement about this matter is. there is so much wrong in that comment and it's full whit lies.


So, since I'm wrong in your opinion, I have a cloud over my eyes. That's how a debate works. Just cause you agree with the popular side doesn't make you right, or even smart.
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Just think how productive our days will become.

How sad to only want to be productive and perfect.

Only because some people can't do what we can, doesn't mean we have to waste our life in order to be equal to them. We could help them and enjoy our life.

The thing with drug legalization, and it has been said a few times already, is that it bears a lot less disadvantages than having it illegal. I'm not saying legalizing drugs is the best idea ever; I say under the circumstances, it is the better idea.

Also, my grand-father used to have pains quite often, and therapeutical doses of marihuana, would have helped him. He just didn't want because it is an illegal drug; even though medicinal use isn't if I'm correct.
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Only because some people can't do what we can, doesn't mean we have to waste our life in order to be equal to them. We could help them and enjoy our life.


Then do it. I suspect that no one on this forum is donating to anything atm.

Also, my grand-father used to have pains quite often, and therapeutical doses of marihuana, would have helped him. He just didn't want because it is an illegal drug; even though medicinal use isn't if I'm correct.


My dad has been suffering from excruciating back pain since I was born. He got off his pain medication, and tried marijuana. He said it didn't do a **** thing for him.
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Then do it. I suspect that no one on this forum is donating to anything atm.

I have.

My dad has been suffering from excruciating back pain since I was born. He got off his pain medication, and tried marijuana. He said it didn't do a **** thing for him.

I'm sorry to hear that. But that doesn't mean it never helps.
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[quote]If marijuana is kept illegal because it's a "waste" of money, then we should also ban video games, porn, and everything else I listed previously.

Just think how productive our days will become.[/quote]

just think how boring life will become.
mass suicide because nothing is allowed to do.
life isn't about productivety. life is about having fun till your die and evrything is over.

So, since I'm wrong in your opinion, I have a cloud over my eyes


no because your statements are lies.
what your standing for is no human freedom.
kinda like communism. and i like my freedom over my job.
thats why you have a cloud over your eyes.

I don't think the founding fathers had getting blazed in mind when they wrote it.


ofcours not. in the time your founding fathers wrote it down. marijuana was legal evrywhere in the world. no1 saw marijuana as a treat befor the 1900's

the prime reason why the usa made it illegal was because they needed men to send to vietnam. there where not enoufg people in the usa that wanted to fight in vietnam. and they gave hippies a choise. 1 go to jail because youve smoked weed. or 2 go fight for the usa in vietnam. loads of hippies went for vietnam instead of jail. but when they are in vietnam they kept smoking weed and didn't want to fight anymore. wich is 1 of the prime reasons why the usa lost the war in vietnam.
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mass suicide because nothing is allowed to do.


You would kill yourself out of boredom?

life isn't about productivety. life is about having fun till your die and evrything is over.


Right..

no because your statements are lies.


Everything I have said is an opinion.

what your standing for is no human freedom.


Because humans make terrible mistakes, all the time.

kinda like communism. and i like my freedom over my job.


How is this like communism? Communism calls glorification of the state, no values outside of their system. If whatever communist system your thinking of calls for smoking weed, then so be it for their country.

the prime reason why the usa made it illegal was because they needed men to send to vietnam. there where not enoufg people in the usa that wanted to fight in vietnam. and they gave hippies a choise. 1 go to jail because youve smoked weed. or 2 go fight for the usa in vietnam. loads of hippies went for vietnam instead of jail. but when they are in vietnam they kept smoking weed and didn't want to fight anymore. wich is 1 of the prime reasons why the usa lost the war in vietnam.


No. Thats not what happened. I'm sure it could have happened to someone, but it wasn't a major cause. Drug culture was influenced by the soldiers, the ones coming home. In Vietnam they used drugs to wind down because of the constant fear of ambush. And they liked em. The liked em so much they brought em home to share with our culture. The generation after that was the hippie generation.
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Because humans make terrible mistakes, all the time.

Don't generalize, for the sake of reason, please. We aren't perfect, does that mean we cannot have any freedom? We don't always act perfect, does that mean only because we are all potential criminals, we should all be treated like actual ones? Are we even to judge about that?
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Except we are all criminals already. We have all done something in our lives that is illegal by our law, we just didn't get caught. And that is just proof of how bogus the system is.

partydevil
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No. Thats not what happened. I'm sure it could have happened to someone, but it wasn't a major cause. Drug culture was influenced by the soldiers, the ones coming home. In Vietnam they used drugs to wind down because of the constant fear of ambush. And they liked em. The liked em so much they brought em home to share with our culture. The generation after that was the hippie generation.


and so i hear a different story of a vietnam veteran.

How is this like communism?


it is because in communism there was also barly any space for human freedom.

Because humans make terrible mistakes, all the time.


what a stupid reason.
and i thought you believed in god. the god who said that humans have freedom.

You would kill yourself out of boredom?


just look at suicide rates in jails or atleast they amount of people in jail that have been thinking about suicide.
1 of the reasons why they want to suicide is because they have no freedom to do what they want.

if you ban evrything fun to do you make a law set thats much like jail. and thats what you are standing for.
partydevil
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Except we are all criminals already. We have all done something in our lives that is illegal by our law, we just didn't get caught. And that is just proof of how bogus the system is.


danm you are realy spoilet.
HahiHa
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Except we are all criminals already. We have all done something in our lives that is illegal by our law, we just didn't get caught. And that is just proof of how bogus the system is.

Still, there are certain penalties for certain crimes. Wanting to impose a certain penalty for everyone is bullcrap and arbitrary.
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and so i hear a different story of a vietnam veteran.


And thats exactly what you will hear. A story.

it is because in communism there was also barly any space for human freedom.


Communism calls for more freedom than capitalism. The attempts Russia made and China is making at it are just bad examples.

what a stupid reason.
and i thought you believed in god. the god who said that humans have freedom.


Not in this thread I didn't.

just look at suicide rates in jails or atleast they amount of people in jail that have been thinking about suicide.
1 of the reasons why they want to suicide is because they have no freedom to do what they want.


This is waaay off topic.
partydevil
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And thats exactly what you will hear. A story.


and yours isn't a story?
i believe a story from some1 who has been there during the time over a story that some kid told me on AG.

Not in this thread I didn't.


hahaha XD you believe something or not.
you are just saying things to get the last word. you are not worte any more of my time.
if your switching your believes from evry topic. then i can't believe a hypocrit as you.

This is waaay off topic.


it is not it is a example.
jail is where freedom is taken from humans. thats exactly where you stand for to happen whit evryone.
"evryone must be productive, no1 is allowed to do fun things."
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