This is gonna sound immature, but; AHHHHH! TOO MANY WORDS!
Hehe. Sorry about that. ^^
Ahem, now that that's over; It is correct that is has nothing to do with age
I think whether it's important to question whether it is. Experience seems to hep people a large amount in most cases, I wouldn't be surprised if it naturally makes them wiser - hell, that's what it does.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that my father is more mature than me. :P
But for some people, those in the not-so-happy median, they achieve understanding of maturity as they get older.
Not always though. :/
That, and I would say that wealth doesn't equate to maturity either - in some cases it can mean the opposite. A family struggling with the recession would have his child more disciplined because he and others are going through hell and need to work together. It's a selfish act at first - but it stems into a permanent aspect of your character, usually.
People have sights on maturity and different ways to grasp it - but it doesn't change the fact that they can do it indepentantly with no loss and no gain except a better personality.
but we also house some of the greatest minds on Earth.
At first I was like O.o
I mean, just look at me and Highfire.
And then I was like O.O
You make me laugh man, I got to say
but I also adore intelligent conversation, mostly because I'm a bleedin' genius and can out-think most anybody I've met (Curse you Dr. P!).
I'm not going to lie, I do take joy in presenting myself as adept in an area of expertise, which usually goes around philosophy or morality and being capable of holding my own to anyone willing to put their ear out to me
Especially in real life, I could be talking with my History teacher about religion (he's a Catholic) and we're playing this domination game with eachother, trying to take lead of the debate. :P
In a friendly manner of course.
In terms of attention, sure, I lose myself once or twice in Math or Science, but that's just because its so BLACK AND WHITE.
This actually gave me insight ^^
I'll use an example, when I play games - in this case Starcraft II, I like to play at my highest level. I put effort in to being the most efficient, faster or just best in general. I know I'm not - otherwise I'd be at the WCG and Assembly 2011 :P
Doing things "
roperly", which in games would be generally what the professionals do - I would compare doing Maths / Science the same way. Granted, I've found work-arounds to some formulae that apply better to my thought pattern and don't seem half as confusing but I don't see the need to adjust my thought pattern ^^
But in classes like English, where I can write and read and interpret my way, where there's twelve-thousand rainbows to explore for each sentence in Frankenstein or The Catcher in the Rye, or in History, when tales of the America of Old inspire me further into my Capitalistic lifestyle, I find myself completely engaged, and usually at my highest maturity level.
I generally dislike the idea of English. I've never had problems with spelling, if I did - I would fix it. It takes 5 minutes to do that though, half my vocabulary is learnt from games, and I thought about the psychological effects of words and phrases since I was 6 (as Chillz has said, I'm now 14) - I understand myself and through it I've understood others. It's good to write and I enjoy constructing sentences and honing my skills but if I wanted that I could simply do a blog.
Which I have... :P
It also doesn't help that my English Teachers are generally idiots. What happens when she puts up "Heros" (with the intention of having it plural - not "Hero's"
and it takes me getting the backup from my brother-in-law AND a dictionary just to prove her wrong because the class would automatically assume I was wrong?
She would yell at me, of course ^^
I already expected that and thought of my own point against her, because what I did was valid, no doubt. The only thing I could've done better was how I said "You spelled heroes wrong" - that's what I said, I could've said "I think you missed the e Miss", but ultimately she didn't think I was right - the outcome would've been the same.
Yay, theorycraft ^^
Oh, and that was three years ago when I first came to high school :P
think that if you don't act in an educated manner at all times when asked questions, then you're an idiot, or insane.
I guess I've failed on multitudes of occasions then
that which is different or better than you often gets put down by you, I'll be ****ed if I let someone call me an idiot.
That's one way of putting it ^^
I've not much to say but this does remind me of what I think I'm (sadly) capable of doing in real life. You know
Thank you for Smoking? It's a lobbyist who kind of obviously works for the wrong side but due to his ability to wage a word-war he's pulled others against the enemy who is actually right. I've played Devil's Advocate without people noticing and have "won" debates against people in real life through sheer oration or reasons which they were incapable of countering (even if I could blatantly see one ^^ ).
On the contrary, I'm the best there is.
Either you lack modesty or you're full of honesty. :P
I find it's actually a problem saying something like that. People interpret it as arrogance and if you're right, a lack of modesty - to me it's blatant that mental practices is something I achieve better than any other student in my year, however I don't ACTUALLY say that. :P
In order to learn what these things are and to be able to properly apply them, one needs time.
I would say that's capabilities of the human brain, for the most part. I spent 8 years on all moral points I came across and most there are ever, but it was weighing it out - bare in mind that nearly always in a situation there are consequences far beyond what happens between two things. It's one of the reasons killing murderers (ones that deserve it) wouldn't be my "go-to" idealogy of punishment, because I don't think the culture would understand or want it.
If you disagree with my definition of maturity, then apply this paragraph to yours... and see if I'm still wrong.
I agree, but bare in mind it doesn't stay relative between people - I didn't say you said otherwise but I figured expanding on what you said could help everyone.
I'm unsure of how much time I've spent thinking about this compared to everyone else, but I would imagine I've spent much more. Does this mean I'm slower in maturing than others, since it took 8 years of hard thought progressing my moral standard? It was concentrated, solely moral thoughts for what I would think was EVERY DAY, that's over 2,000 days thinking of it - I can easily say that's well over 2,000 hours.
Granted, it wasn't just to do with maturity - would actually say when I wasn't influenced by emotions or something that I was pretty heavily mature throughout though, since I'd be thinking about a serious thing, probably.
To say that the two are absolutely independent and have nothing to do with each other is fallacious thinking.
Bare in mind it may have been a simple inaccurate wording on his part, I think it would help to clarify that IF he meant that the two are absolutely independent and have nothing to do with each other is...
There are also different forms of maturity. These include: social maturity, mental maturity, and physical maturity... now, that last one by nature of the beast has to coexist with age.
Including? In total I would say there are four - social, mental, intellect and physical. Intellect would be your intelligence, the theory of power and scientific theories that could be put forward as "what is / happened". Physical would be related to of course Sonatavirus' explanation:
by nature of the beast has to coexist with age.
Mental maturity to me would be based on subjective philosophies, your lifestyle (religion, being my primary guess), your thought patterns and mental "strength" on a whole. It's too difficult to actually pinpoint these things though.
By strength, I do not mean brain power. ^^
I know... this was arguing semantics...
Glad you realized
but therein again... making absolute statements without further clarification of your thoughts brings into the argument all of the possible interpretations of that ideology you neglected to expound upon.
Which would be the reason I would expand on "Glad you realized" with a smiley, some people's interpretation would be sarcasm, which is why I'm going to say that hell no, I'm serious.
Which sounds a little exaggerated considering that "Glad you realized" just seems so casual ^^
Okay first dont say the R word spend some time with mentally disabled kids and you will see.
I'd like to ask where exactly this happened and by who - I feel like it was me, and it probably was.
Using the word "retard", I don't see why it would be insulting. This is ironically to do with maturity. Learn to know what people mean, if they use the word "retard" excessively or unnecessarily then of course point it out but if I DID say it then I would use it fairly. Idiocy is just stupid - blatantly stupid, but the "R" word is simply a step up from that in the context I generally mean it.
I bare no reference to people who are mentally or physically handicapped, the sooner people understand that the sooner they will see how much I'm expressing my point.
I have had teachers that literal would kick you out of class if you said the R word using that word provides a negative connotation and makes a lot of people think that person is an inconsiderate b... umm person.
Erm.
Difficult topic. I don't swear infront of adults or others in real life because it's regarded "disrespectful" - I think expressing myself with curse words (not excessively of course) is justified, but I still don't do it because people who think that I think it's fine anyway, which is generally the case with others don't actually understand. If I felt the need to actually swear I'd do it and anyone appearing insulted I would justify it to them, if they still don't appreciate that I don't do it all that often (er... anymore) I'd simply apologize to and move on.
The maturity problem well we all have to act like kids sometimes otherwise nothing would be fun
The time and place for related behaviour is what defines maturity (to an extent) to me.
I get straight A's and yes I have also been asked by other students to help them figure this or that out solving quadratic functions ETC.
I did quadratics 2 years ago so I've forgot what they are.
The thing I was just thinking of when trying to remember was simultaneous equations ^^
what im trying to say is Im not a naturally smart person I have to work and work and work at it
... Sorry for the nitpick, but I'd like to say that so does everyone else who is intelligent - to reach that level of intelligence you naturally need to work harder, though. Is that what you meant?
Although I should point out that it's more or less using your time to actually learn that I find is the problem, people generally don't care about that kind of stuff, be it for social standing or simple laziness. Intelligence kind of correlates with discipline.
so people arent immature if they dont know stuff they are just having trouble if you are such a good student help them with stuff.
Anyone who asks or anyone I like enough to offer (which is generally anyone who isn't an aggressive fool) is who I help. I don't see how exactly they didn't pick up on something although I find myself being very observant (how ironic) pretty much all of the time. Have you ever had someone on the phone or laptop, whatever they are were doing and you just couldn't grab their attention? I've never understood that, and because of it I've always developed a system where I prioritize things. If I'm on the computer and I hear my name I give recognition so that they don't feel ignored and furthermore actually aren't being ignored.
That recognition could be from "One sec" to "Sorry, what?" :P
Helpi people who need it they just need that extra push to help them on their way your viewpoint is very flawed
Whom's viewpoint is very flawed? If you're referencing me then I'm certain I didn't say the METHOD of having people with attention "
roblems" - expressing the situation and confronting it are done very differently by me.
They would talk down to "dumber" kids, because they assumed they had less maturity
What can I say? They're more idiotic because they lack mental maturity (my clarification).
The #1 priority is morality, but morality requires maturity to discuss on a serious basis because of what it involves (which ranges from so many things). Intellect and Physical Maturity are not good if you use them incorrectly.
From what I've noticed, many people assume maturity in a child results from the ability to take something, and really think about it.
Whilst I would say that most people who assume that do so for the wrong reasons, I would say the ability to keep focus on a matter that actually... matters does require a state of maturity which is not always present in young people.
However, what seems like true maturity to me is the ability to take something, and think about it without bias, and be able to see something from all angles.
Yes and no, I think the ability to keep focused on something isn't all that hard to do (for me at least) but for the "lower levels" of maturity that actually take this into account I think that being capable of sustaining thoughts of something until you... I don't know - understand it?
It's difficult to interpret what maturity actually is, different things apply depending on how mature you are and furthermore in what criteria. How would you define my social maturity? The way I communicate and get along with people in general or how many friends I've had and their relationship with me?
Different conditions bring up different measurements.
You don't have to be all that smart to get A's in school, you just have to be dilligent and do all the work.
True, but you actually KNOW it now...
Good grades does not always equal smarts.
Certainly not, but I would think your actual exams at the end of school equate to intelligence on a tighter scale.
Not so, it was so uninteresting to me that I usually ended with D's or C's because of all the homework that I didn't do, even though I got 100%'s on the tests and what not.
No offense but I think your school is very dumb. In mine they have two things: Reports with your levels etc, which is based on your exams, and the sheet about your behaviour / progress / homework etc. They're not the same thing and they're separate for each topic. Yours seems to take homework into account, which is rediculous.
I think it is how you are able to deal with things.
Not necessarily, even that is a difficult thing to agree with. The ability to deal with things and how you actually deal with things and furthermore how "normal" it is to you to do it in that way is what I think is maturity. I'm used to thinking on a logical / reasonable level and I do it with pretty much everything, although I add or take away what wouldn't help the situation - it could be insults, complements, an expression, the way I say / do something, etc.
A mature person will not complain about every single thing, and can pretty much just "suck it up."
I would actually say that only recently I've matured, if I compare myself to your clarification.
I'd like you to be more specific, sucking it up? Accepting something, recognition of something and the will to do something about it, not caring... what is it you think it is, exactly?
A mature person will not let emotions completely control their decisions or act with a whim on serious matters.
I've inadvertantly removed emotions from the equation in a few cases. :/
Emotions are influences which are not helpful in a debating situation, honestly. Out of a situation that comes through I naturally know what to do, but the thing is emotions still don't come into it.
The only times I think I could actually be emotional would be when expressing myself on THAT large a level (which wouldn't be a bad thing), or whenever it's not necessary to hide, conceal, remove etc, with my emotions.
In short, maturity is acting like you give a ****,
A higher level of maturity would actually be giving a ****. NOT caring about something is widely overused I think, I am not bothered by something could be a way of putting it, although if a friend needs help I'll put in the effort to make sure what's right happens, and furthermore to support them.
Honestly? People are always immature, for the whole of their lives.
... I think you're expecting someone to call you immature or something.
You're imfunny, just saying. ^^
Sorry for ultra-long post, I'm bored?
- H
